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I would be plenty happy with a Smith model 28 as my only handgun, IIIFFFF I as forced to just one. Agree! My 4" 28 just fits, balances and shoots. Have a 4" 686, and a 6" 586, both great, but are just little brothers.
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You have an N-frame in 38? Is it the Outdoorsman or Heavy Duty? I never had an L-frame but three N-frame 357. Two M27 and one M28. I don't miss the 27s but the M28. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/171324.jpg)
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You can cover lock hole with $30 Tromix safety latch. No point of spending extra hundreds for pre-lock model. Boomers hate lock and MIM parts, avoiding competition from them can save you a lot of cash. The upside of getting newer gun is seven or eight shot .357/.38 cylinder.
Guy at another forum bought Performance Center 627-5 for $850, that was good price for eight-shot .357. What’s the realistic advantage of an extra round? Nobody is packing revolvers for serious defense weapons today. Sure you can cover up the hole and MIM parts usually work fine. S&W built its reputation and its glory years with no Hillary holes and no MIM parts. An original version harkens back to the glory years and will always be more collectible and the better value.
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The L frame is the "better" gun in some ways. Call me old fashioned, but I would take a 27 every day of the week over the L frame. Every time you pick it up it will put a smile on your face and you'll be proud you bought S&W's best effort. Yep
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You can cover lock hole with $30 Tromix safety latch. No point of spending extra hundreds for pre-lock model. Boomers hate lock and MIM parts, avoiding competition from them can save you a lot of cash. The upside of getting newer gun is seven or eight shot .357/.38 cylinder.
Guy at another forum bought Performance Center 627-5 for $850, that was good price for eight-shot .357. What’s the realistic advantage of an extra round? Nobody is packing revolvers for serious defense weapons today. Sure you can cover up the hole and MIM parts usually work fine. S&W built its reputation and its glory years with no Hillary holes and no MIM parts. An original version harkens back to the glory years and will always be more collectible and the better value. Nothing wrong with the new ones. Mechanically they're the best N frames ever, even if they're different from what we grew up with. If you want to shoot an N frame a lot, I'd buy a new one, especially if we're talking a .357. If you want an occasional shooter and a collector, then buy the classic.
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You can cover lock hole with $30 Tromix safety latch. No point of spending extra hundreds for pre-lock model. Boomers hate lock and MIM parts, avoiding competition from them can save you a lot of cash. The upside of getting newer gun is seven or eight shot .357/.38 cylinder.
Guy at another forum bought Performance Center 627-5 for $850, that was good price for eight-shot .357. What’s the realistic advantage of an extra round? Nobody is packing revolvers for serious defense weapons today. Sure you can cover up the hole and MIM parts usually work fine. S&W built its reputation and its glory years with no Hillary holes and no MIM parts. An original version harkens back to the glory years and will always be more collectible and the better value. This.
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You can cover lock hole with $30 Tromix safety latch. No point of spending extra hundreds for pre-lock model. Boomers hate lock and MIM parts, avoiding competition from them can save you a lot of cash. The upside of getting newer gun is seven or eight shot .357/.38 cylinder.
Guy at another forum bought Performance Center 627-5 for $850, that was good price for eight-shot .357. What’s the realistic advantage of an extra round? Nobody is packing revolvers for serious defense weapons today. Sure you can cover up the hole and MIM parts usually work fine. S&W built its reputation and its glory years with no Hillary holes and no MIM parts. An original version harkens back to the glory years and will always be more collectible and the better value. This. +4
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I went to the LGS the other day...I was set to finally buy a Governor. I asked Dustin if they had one, he said yes. He handed me the gun and I felt the action and said yep I'll take it. Everytime I go to buy one, I end up getting something else...this time was no different. The owner, Naomi, knows my tastes and said...didn't you see the I got a model 10-5, a pre-model 10, and a little i frame in 32 s&w long? So instead of the Governor, I got three very nice vintage guns.
Still no Governor.
And, now I'm looking at more 357's....I have lots already. I don't need anymore 357's but am attracted to the model 27 and 586. (I have a 4 inch 686 and 2.5 inch 686+ both are great). I have some other 357's from ruger and colt too. So, just really looking at these two models right now.
I'm not sure if I'll get a new gun - with the Hillary hole that apparently should be covered with a pantsuit to prevent upskirt shots - or a vintage. I'm not really bothered by it and kind of giggle in my mind as to the vulgarity it represents.
So basically, L frame or N frame 357...what do you guys like? I don't have an N frame 357, I have one in 38 which I like alot.
-John N frame, all day, every day.  Exactly. Governor? Pffft.
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You have an N-frame in 38? Is it the Outdoorsman or Heavy Duty? I never had an L-frame but three N-frame 357. Two M27 and one M28. I don't miss the 27s but the M28. Nice looking piece, Elmer.
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As long as you have N frame hands they are great.If you don't have enough hand size then a k or an l works fine. Luv my 4" 28 and even more my 3.5" 27...mb
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
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IMHO the L-frame is the perfect size for .357. If left with only one handgun forever and ever, it'd be my 4" 586.
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The M-27 was S&W's version of a Rolls Royce
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Shot a 19-5, 686-5 and a 28-2 a lot. Majority 38 spl in both but load 357 mag on occasion mild to hot. Like them all. If I had to choose one though it would be the 28.
The 27 are beautiful pistols. Have had opportunities through the years to buy one. Just never have. While I like the looks the 28 has always satisfied that urge. As far as I know 28’s are exactly the same as 27’s but for a matte finish vs high polish blue.
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Not long ago I handled what I believe was a pre Model 27. No model number on the frame, and the serial number was from the 1955-1956 time period. Very solid well made gun....
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Shot a 19-5, 686-5 and a 28-2 a lot. Majority 38 spl in both but load 357 mag on occasion mild to hot. Like them all. If I had to choose one though it would be the 28.
The 27 are beautiful pistols. Have had opportunities through the years to buy one. Just never have. While I like the looks the 28 has always satisfied that urge. As far as I know 28’s are exactly the same as 27’s but for a matte finish vs high polish blue. 28's are the same N-frame as the M-27 but without the wide trigger and hammer spur. The top of the M-27 is checkered the 28 is not and the bluing on the M-27 is S&W best
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You have an N-frame in 38? Is it the Outdoorsman or Heavy Duty? I never had an L-frame but three N-frame 357. Two M27 and one M28. I don't miss the 27s but the M28. Nice looking piece, Elmer. Thank you, l_d. I still hate it that I sold it. I sold it to a gun dealer on the internet. Dunno if he still has it. I consider to buy the gun back. But due to silly gun laws I would have to sell one of the two Rugers I still own. I had the M28-2 bought for 275 Euros with box, papers and tools and sold it for 440 Euros. At that time I was happy but was later grabbed by seller's remorse.
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You have an N-frame in 38? Is it the Outdoorsman or Heavy Duty? I never had an L-frame but three N-frame 357. Two M27 and one M28. I don't miss the 27s but the M28. Nice looking piece, Elmer. Thank you, l_d. I still hate it that I sold it. I sold it to a gun dealer on the internet. Dunno if he still has it. I consider to buy the gun back. But due to silly gun laws I would have to sell one of the two Rugers I still own. I had the M28-2 bought for 275 Euros with box, papers and tools and sold it for 440 Euros. At that time I was happy but was later grabbed by seller's remorse. Don't blame you, Elmer. One of the reasons I almost never sell any of my guns.
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