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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Given the moronic shyt I've read in this thread, Ayoob has more credibility than when it started.
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You make zero sense, the guy defended himself clear and still git prosecuted, so you and Aboob recommend doing nothing
Aboob is full of BS pure and simple You're just making [bleep] up to be disagreeable. Ayoob does not recommend doing nothing. He recommends doing things wisely. Big difference. I'd take his advice over some of the [bleep] I've read on this forum any day. In the end, whether you walk or have to spend your life's fortune defending yourself is going to be based on what your actions give to a states attorney. Blue does this for a living read his post slowly and try to comprehend From personal experience...
If you use force against someone and they want to sue you, no amount of hand wringing or base covering will prevent or help that. Either you're a terrible person who screwed up or you're not.
Same-Same for activist prosecutors.
"No sense in giving them extra ammunition"..... It doesn't matter. They're going to paint you as the villain NO MATTER WHAT.
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I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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You make zero sense, the guy defended himself clear and still git prosecuted, so you and Aboob recommend doing nothing
Aboob is full of BS pure and simple You're just making [bleep] up to be disagreeable. Ayoob does not recommend doing nothing. He recommends doing things wisely. Big difference. I'd take his advice over some of the [bleep] I've read on this forum any day. In the end, whether you walk or have to spend your life's fortune defending yourself is going to be based on what your actions give to a states attorney. Blue does this for a living read his post slowly and try to comprehend Yeah, I read it, and he's right. Know how I know? Because I've been doing it for more than 30 years, too. That's my job. I have to provide defenses for people that are being sued for all manner of bullshit. People that got hurt when they tried to assault someone. Homeowners who are sued because they shot an intruder. Insureds that get sued because they deck someone that harasses their wife. Anyone can sue you for anything. Whether or not is ultimately goes anywhere is based on what the attorneys are given. That's the fugging point. The less you give a prosecutor or a plaintiff attorney to prosecute a case against you, the better.
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You make zero sense, the guy defended himself clear and still git prosecuted, so you and Aboob recommend doing nothing
Aboob is full of BS pure and simple You're just making [bleep] up to be disagreeable. Ayoob does not recommend doing nothing. He recommends doing things wisely. Big difference. I'd take his advice over some of the [bleep] I've read on this forum any day. In the end, whether you walk or have to spend your life's fortune defending yourself is going to be based on what your actions give to a states attorney. Blue does this for a living read his post slowly and try to comprehend Yeah, I read it, and he's right. Know how I know? Because I've been doing it for more than 30 years, too. That's my job. I have to provide defenses for people that are being sued for all manner of bullshit. People that got hurt when they tried to assault someone. Homeowners who are sued because they shot an intruder. Insureds that get sued because they deck someone that harasses their wife. Anyone can sue you for anything. Whether or not is ultimately goes anywhere is based on what the attorneys are given. That's the fugging point. The less you give a prosecutor or a plaintiff attorney to prosecute a case against you, the better. No Blue is a LEO not a Civil attorney
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I'm not an attorney, either. But I have attorneys on contract for insureds and I manage the litigation that arises from civil suits. Self defense situations, including clear cut cases, generate a lot of lawsuits. How someone handles themselves in a self defense situation is paramount. A plaintiff attorney, and a prosecutor, will use anything they can use against you.
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a prosecutor, will use anything they can use against you. That's a given, but Aboob's BS doesn't negate that fact.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I'd have seen a lot more defense verdicts, and fewer settlements and verdicts if more defendants had followed his advice. Maybe not 100%. But you wouldn't believe some of the dumb [bleep] I've seen.
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Abood vs Flave ...
Round 2 ...
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The very last person I'll take use of force advice from in an employee of an insurance company.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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And I've seen cops [bleep] up more cases than anyone.
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Yes, the people involved in cases are usually the ones who screw them up. Hard to screw up a play from the sidelines.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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It's the side lines that gets a wrongly prosecuted individual justice. And usually the ones that pay for it.
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Then you're a F'ing idiot. Did you read Wader's post? He is a lawyer and presently a judge. You noticed that too....he's a total morOn
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I'm not an attorney, either. But I have attorneys on contract for insureds and I manage the litigation that arises from civil suits. Self defense situations, including clear cut cases, generate a lot of lawsuits. How someone handles themselves in a self defense situation is paramount. A plaintiff attorney, and a prosecutor, will use anything they can use against you. So you work for an insurance company? LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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In my time in the military, I learned tactics from people who had never been in a fight but may have learned from people who had. Were they wrong to teach me? AyBoob grossly misrepresented himself for decades. Get real. How so?
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So you work for an insurance company?
LOL Yeah, so what we have to do is hire and pay for lawyers to unfuq what many cops screw up. You know, jacked up investigations and reports, failures to talk to witnesses, allowing evidence to deteriorate and spoliate. That sort of thing.
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So you work for an insurance company?
LOL Yeah, so what we have to do is hire and pay for lawyers to unfuq what many cops screw up. You know, jacked up investigations and reports, failures to talk to witnesses, allowing evidence to deteriorate and spoliate. That sort of thing. None of which has anything to do with Aboob telling you to shine your light on the floor instead of where you are looking
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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So you work for an insurance company?
LOL Yeah, so what we have to do is hire and pay for lawyers to unfuq what many cops screw up. You know, jacked up investigations and reports, failures to talk to witnesses, allowing evidence to deteriorate and spoliate. That sort of thing. LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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