Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Long range "hunting". What say you?

Doesn't do a thing for me. I want to get into their living room and do everything right, to the point they walk right in front of me, or within 100 or so yards. The closer I can get, the more I feel I did my homework and beat them at their own game. I can understand longer shots taken out west to a certain point, but I'll leave the long range sniping to somebody else.

Pretty much sums it up. It ain't about intelligent discussion most days. It's about people hearing themselves talk.

Tuesday..

This.

Already starting in NM. The easy button was scopes on ML’s. There is discussions about other technology and season dates, tag numbers are next.

I know a chief engineer who is a bow hunter.
There is at least one smart person then, who thinks hunting is stalking.

Not me. Each rifle I build, I target practice to find my range limit.

And you can't tell me the bow hunters are not practicing to find THIER range limit.

If you can hold a tight group at 100 yards with say a 300wm or a 7mm, at what distance will that grouping expand to 30 inches?

My long range hunting is 3o yards with my bow,I like to see their eyelashes. It's the thrill of the chase,not the kill,that is the real deal.To each their own, it ain't hunting to me.Too many chances of not making a clean kill,the quarry deserves that.See many animals shot to sheet at the taxi's every year.if your gonna shoot it,at least do a good job.

It doesn’t interest me, but I don’t care a whole lot.

I will say, however, with regard to some muzzleloaders it is getting stupid. They make plenty of muzzleloaders now that are 400 yard guns. Wasn’t the original point to offer additional hunting opportunities while not putting the pressure that a rifle hunting would? What is the difference now? Either open it up to rifles or restrict optics on muzzleloaders.

But then again, I don’t want to pretend like I care too much about it.

Some long range shooting that is fun and ethical is shooting flies and grasshoppers that land on your targets when sighting in or checking zero. I’ve saved a few targets that have that satisfying splat on them.

Not for me though I have zero issue with how one chooses to legally hunt.

antelope in the wide open you need a rifle that can shoot a long ways out ,i just got back from a hunt in Wyoming for antelope ,we had limited time and antelope population is down and we had a storm coming in and where the animals live in the open range area you need a rifle that will shoot good with a bi-pod . my buck loper i shot was 460 yards away otherwise i probably would have not got a antelope . i was prepared to shoot out to 600 yards with my rifle and a bi-pod laying down for this hunt.

Just like degenerate gamblers. You always hear about the big scores, but never the crippling losses.

How about sitting inside a tree house with either a gun or bow, is that hunting?
Is sitting on the same stump for years waiting for a 50 yard shot hunting?
What exactly is considered hunting anyway?

So, give or take, I consider 600ish to by my limit, but, the bullet flight time is the "Why" behind that number. Beyond that sort of flight time, the wind call accuracy and the potential for critter movement makes the (or at least my) margin for error exponentially smaller.

Who are Muley Fanatics to think they are somehow empowered to define "fair chase" to this guy?

Sound like democrats.

T Inman;
Good morning my friend, I hope that you're getting weather you can stand up there and you're healthy.

Thanks for the points to ponder, I always appreciate your input and thoughts on these subjects.

It would seem to me that we're likely not too, too far from having optics on a rifle which will take a laser shot for distance and then automatically adjust the aiming point. Then it'll only be the wind the shooter has to contend with won't it?

There is a local chap who is a gunsmith specializing in putting together long distance rifles and in the last few years he's set up a side business teaching long range shooting to hunters and some LEO as well. I have a buddy who is LEO who is involved in some capacity there too.

The LEO buddy reports to me that to a large degree, the class participants are under the impression that they're able to purchase long range hunting ability and confuse it with long range hunting. His point being that the class does not and can not teach them animal body language before or after being hit.

Another young friend of mine who was chatting with me this past weekend as we were chasing a ram for his uncle who is an old and dear friend of mine, is that the trend he's seeing is a bit of a gear race and not a "where are they watering or feeding" sort of approach.

There's a bunch of reasons for this for sure T, likely that the younger folks are working 50-60 hours a week trying to make ends meet as well as being in more urban centers where they simply cannot observe wildlife on a daily or weekly basis, you know?

For sure up here we're now at a no way to accrue points LEH system for local mountain goat and sheep and shorter seasons with more point restrictions for mulies. A couple years back they took away the late bow season which was during the rut, as too many mature bucks were being taken out of the winter range herds.

We're also not allowed to hunt with drones and I want to say that game cams which broadcast live to one's phone might be out too? Not sure about the game cams entirely but there was some discussion about it that I'd need to look up.

Thanks again and all the best to you this fall my friend. We'll both do our best to stay safe out there as we're hunting solo.

Dwayne

It's just a deer.....but I don't like to see them wounded.

I'm reasonably certain that Swarovski and Burris have scopes with a laser on board that will do just that via lighting an LED on the vertical stadia for hold-over. Sig has a scope that pairs to a handheld LRF or their Binoc/LRF combo unit where the LRF ranges, talks to the scope, and the scope lights up an LED hold-over.

I think it's stupid, but I don't really care as long as it's a clean kill. And yes it's still "hunting".

Horse 1 ---- I have that Swaro scope and 1000 yards is easy IF there is no wind and the animal does not decide to take a step during the TOF of the bullet.

There is hunting and there is long range target shooting using live targets.

I am all in favor of the latter if the target is a 2 legged criminal. Otherwise I like to get so close I can smell the animal. Elk HUNTERS know what I mean.