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Hey UTP, just how many Elk have you Slayed?
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I am MAGA.
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Some long range shooting that is fun and ethical is shooting flies and grasshoppers that land on your targets when sighting in or checking zero. I’ve saved a few targets that have that satisfying splat on them. Had a copperhead come slithering across between me and my bow target one evening. Nailed him at 15yds. 
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Some long range shooting that is fun and ethical is shooting flies and grasshoppers that land on your targets when sighting in or checking zero. I’ve saved a few targets that have that satisfying splat on them. Had a copperhead come slithering across between me and my bow target one evening. Nailed him at 15yds. Did you range him first or just instinctively shoot him? 
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Not me. Each rifle I build, I target practice to find my range limit. If you can hold a tight group at 100 yards with say a 300wm or a 7mm, at what distance will that grouping expand to 30 inches? After enough rifles, using Quickload and Quick target, I can extrapolate from from a 200 yard zero, out to a elevation of 8 moa. That is with either turret or reticle. This makes the 6.5-06 and 7mmRM into 600 yard rifles for me, but the 250 Savage is more like a 400 yard rifle.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway
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Some long range shooting that is fun and ethical is shooting flies and grasshoppers that land on your targets when sighting in or checking zero. I’ve saved a few targets that have that satisfying splat on them. Had a copperhead come slithering across between me and my bow target one evening. Nailed him at 15yds. Did you range him first or just instinctively shoot him? Instinct, pure instinct.
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In summary:
You shoot/hunt/whatever your way.....and leave me and mine the f uck alone!! Pretty damn simple!!
Even birds know not to land downwind!
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When the entire country is able to go at least 1 decade without a hunting related injury from a "sound-shot", I'll be happy to let you critique ethics and abilities.
Implication being that if the "animal" is close enough to hear walking for a "sound shot", it's 50yds and under most likely wearing bright orange yet somehow is still mistaken for a game animal. Fix that 1st.
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When the entire country is able to go at least 1 decade without a hunting related injury from a "sound-shot", I'll be happy to let you critique ethics and abilities.
Implication being that if the "animal" is close enough to hear walking for a "sound shot", it's 50yds and under most likely wearing bright orange yet somehow is still mistaken for a game animal. Fix that 1st. No-schitter of the day.
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No deer, antelope or elk that I've shot ever heard the shot before the bullet hit him. Is that non-sporting? Dumbasses. I interpreted that part of the article differently. To me, the argument was more about the animals not being able to place misses while the "long range hunter" walks shots in.
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It would seem to me that we're likely not too, too far from having optics on a rifle which will take a laser shot for distance and then automatically adjust the aiming point. Then it'll only be the wind the shooter has to contend with won't it? Dwayne, I always enjoy your posts. I'm afraid that we've eclipsed those technology predictions by more than you may have imagined... https://talonprecisionoptics.com/technology/how-it-works/
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Not for me though I have zero issue with how one chooses to legally hunt. O yea! A conservative.
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I don`t do long range shooting.For me the thrill is the stalk to get as close as possible.On the other hand I don`t figure I should tell others how to hunt.Ethics is always brought up.I don`t know why.Maybe we should all go back to throwing rocks at game as everything man has come up with is unfair to the animal.Just sayin!!!
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I have taken numerous elk, deer and antelope over the years and the longest shot/kill has been approximately 280 yards for any of them. Had a chance to shoot at big elk and mule deer at 550 to 600 yards but declined and instead waited to get closer shot, but then again I'm not a head hunter but meat hunter.
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“Most big game animals can’t detect a hunter more than 400 yards away. That’s out beyond the biological limits of the animal, and that’s not fair chase,” "Most" ? - maybe. Tell it to sheep, or maybe antelope (not hunted those). I got nailed to the board once by a band of 7 rams at 3 miles by the map. Sky-lined myself, I did....they went on high alert and moved from the slope out into the middle of a wide-open basin, and continued to give me the fish eye. Big bruiser in there too.. I was looking back with a 15-45 spotting scope. One week before season. I've a 1,000 yard gun (3 shot , inch groups at 300 yards), but under perfect conditions and known range, a 500 yard limit with that gun. Everything else I own is 1.25 or less, and those are 400 yard or less (mostly less) shooters. And it ain't the guns.... 
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It's all good as long as you are using Chi-Com optics...LOL
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Not me. Each rifle I build, I target practice to find my range limit. If you can hold a tight group at 100 yards with say a 300wm or a 7mm, at what distance will that grouping expand to 30 inches? After enough rifles, using Quickload and Quick target, I can extrapolate from from a 200 yard zero, out to a elevation of 8 moa. That is with either turret or reticle. This makes the 6.5-06 and 7mmRM into 600 yard rifles for me, but the 250 Savage is more like a 400 yard rifle. That's pretty much how I'm set up. I don't own exspensive fancy scopes, and I'm not shooting 100s of rounds a year. But I know where my rifles hit a various distances and my limit is also 600, not a preference, just my limit. More power to those with more capabilities, good on them. I throughly enjoyed that video posted earlier in this thread of the kid dropping that bull at 1300+ yards. It's like his father said at the end, they shoot those distances on their range at home all the time, it wasn't the kids first rodeo, he proved himself. If you know you can do it, go for it..
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Some long range shooting that is fun and ethical is shooting flies and grasshoppers that land on your targets when sighting in or checking zero. I’ve saved a few targets that have that satisfying splat on them. Had a copperhead come slithering across between me and my bow target one evening. Nailed him at 15yds. Did you range him first or just instinctively shoot him? Instinct, pure instinct. Thumbs up here.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Most people can shoot better than they think. They just don't have the opportunity, or maybe desire, to find out. The majority of hunters never shoot a target beyond 100 yards.
"Two inches high at a hunerd is good out to bout as far as you can see em."
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Most people can shoot better than they think. They just don't have the opportunity, or maybe desire, to find out. The majority of hunters never shoot a target beyond 100 yards.
"Two inches high at a hunerd is good out to bout as far as you can see em." 3 and a half on my rum was good to 430 with no holdover.
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