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Just for s#its and giggles, what does the fuel economy of a standard F150 pulling through same weight on the same roads drop to?


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Like trying to sell doo rags and afro picks in Mexico.



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I’d like to a comparison in charge times vs filling up a truck with gas. Lol

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If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by tikkanut
FJB and his EV's
This

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The only thing an EV pickup is good for is local deliveries in town. I'd never even consider taking one any distance.
THAT, in SPADES!!


Originally Posted by tikkanut
FJB and his EV's
AMEN...


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
It's the future.......


Semms to be so.

At this point it is not even close to being what I would call a "mature technology". Maybe someday, but not even close at this point.

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Why is it the cool thing to bust E-vehicle?

I see liberal style, almost hysterical, fact twisting and scenario
picking constantly. How many even understand how the function
in use? Right now?

Towing with one is a farce. That truck was designed to work about
as much as any heated steering wheel, plush interior ladies truck.


I too was interested to see how it would do.
Not surprised at the turnout. Better performance then 80s 1/2 tons,
darn near similar range. Refilling being much more difficult.

How are a huge number of similar pickup ups used.

50 mile commute? Check.
Similar trip to haul stuff? Check.
Tow a small boat or personal atv/jet ski a relatively short distance? Check.
All of that can be accomplished charging with an extension cord overnight.

Longer use would require a boost.
Simple extension cord over a days charging or a charging station.

Instead of just stupidly bashing (used to). I did a bit of learning.

Buddy at work commutes 7 miles daily. Visits kids 100 miles away often.
He was upset how they are being forced on us and how bad one would
be to live with.

Depending on the car, he could drive to work 2 days between charges easily.
And still recharge with an extension cord overnight. Logically, he would
plug it in every night just to always have range available.

Visiting his kids, he could plug in at their house and that would get him home. Right now, chargers are spotty on his route. Eventually there will
likely be more. A quick charger would give him plenty of range to get home in 20 minutes or less. About how long it takes to pump gas, buy a coffee and leave a coffee.


Lotta Red Herrings get thrown around.
Charging times vary.

At home is best and cheapest. Takes all night on an extension cord.
Several hours on a 30amp 220v line. That can be T'ed off a clothes dryer.
Most can easily DYI it.
There is the option of a dedicated line from the breaker, also DIY for most.
Or even a dedicated service.
Those speed things up, at a initial cost.
And are unnecessary, if the car is parked for hours daily.

Stations can charge in minutes to an hour or more.
Depends on station and car.

Batteries, are like gas tanks. Devices to hold energy.
They do not need to be filled.

If you have a 150 mile actual range,
Are 75 miles from home,
And only have 15% of the battery,
you do not need to fully charge.
15 or 20 minutes on a fast charger would get you to maybe 70%
That would get you home.

Usable boost charging is often mis-represented.
The "fuller" a battery gets, the "harder" it is to gain charge.
Road tripping one isn't about station to station and fully charging.
Typically one would charge when down to 10-15% (1/8 tank)
Then charge to 80-90%, but not much more. Because the slowdown in charging isn't worth the extra range. That doesn't take long to achieve.
Especially a Tesla charger.

Long trips are certainly different. Current infrastructure and the phone apps offer pretty decent support over much of the country, on high travel routes.

This link shows most stations. You have to zoom for details.
Coverage in the higher populated areas isn't as good as the wide shot
shows. Not as bad in other areas.

https://chargehub.com/en/charging-stations-map.html


Have no dog in the E-vehicle fight, don't even own one.

It is an interesting technology, that has the potential to be a better
widget for a huge portion of our population.

Just as we should have gas and more diesel options, electric should
be a third option. Never a requirement.

Batteries aren't likely to replace engines soon.
Powerful equipment, remote operations, there will be a need for
an easily handled, energy dense fuel.

40 years ago having seen kids battery cars dead in 15 minutes,
7.2v drills with little power and life, I would have never imagined
a saw cutting 2x4s, an impact gun, a usable chainsaw!
Dam sure wouldn't have imagined an electric car out running a
700hp Hemi, and being able to go 200 miles.


The government needs to get out of it. Stop subsidies, start charging
a per mile road tax in lieu of gas taxes (on e-vehicles). Let the market
do it's magic and bring us the best/cheapest products.


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EVs R BS. Fine for urban trips to Walmart.. Oh, and you can bet yer sweet bippy there WILL be either a 'road tax' for EVs or a yuge payment to the gov't for your next year's license tabs..

Y'all will pay - EV lovers... Get ready to bend over... All the gov't's doin' now is painting 'blue sky' numbers and hiding the real costs that are a'comin'...


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