.30-40? Any markings on the barrel, either on top or under the wood? Pope invariably marked his stuff. In the event that any markings were removed, the rifling would be the clincher: Pope invariably utilized LH twist, and in the case of lead bullet target barrels was of a distinctive shallow groove design but high velocity .30 barrels got rifling more typical of "modern" forms. He made very very few barrels for jacketed bullet shooting.
I could not find any markings on the barrel, will have to examine the twist closer. I am reasonably certain the forearm is not original as it is checkered and the wood does not match. Also beavertail shape.
For those without thumbs, it's s Garden fookin Island, not Hawaii
Looked again, still no markings on the barrel, grins... ~22.5" barrel, 8 grooves/lands, RH twist. Suspect it's not a Pope, that's ok, wont feel so bad when I drag it around the woods looking for a moose, still need to get some blood on it.!
For those without thumbs, it's s Garden fookin Island, not Hawaii
1885 Low Wall that shipped in Oct., 1892 as a 25-20 with a #2 barrel. Went back to Winchester in 1908 and returned as a .22LR with a 30" #3 barrel. Weighs 10-4, all of it barrel, high grade wood, Scheutzen style buttplate (the Cody letter actually names this a Swiss buttplate with carved cheekpiece) , 3 leaf rear sight, tang sight, globe front sight, set trigger which I need to get adjusted, won't set.
I rest the barrel on a bag and I can get 2" at 50yds. Ultimate squirrel gun but you'd need a gunbearer.
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1885 Low Wall that shipped in Oct., 1892 as a 25-20 with a #2 barrel. Went back to Winchester in 1908 and returned as a .22LR with a 30" #3 barrel. Weighs 10-4, all of it barrel, high grade wood, Scheutzen style buttplate, 3 leaf rear sight, tang sight, globe front sight, set trigger which I need to get adjusted, won't set.
I rest the barrel on a bag and I can get 2" at 50yds. Ultimate squirrel gun but you'd need a gunbearer.
Beautiful rifle RR!! I really like the 1885s - have one similar to yours that was customized by Frank Zika (a fellow that was a well known single shot smith) it was made in 1887 and he turned it into a “Schuetzen” style .22 I’m guessing some time in the 70s? - it shoots great and like yours is very heavy (but balances out of proportion to its weight).
Here's my Stevens 414 Armory, 22. It's a blast shooting little chips left from clay pigeons. Had my Daughter and SIL at camp. When we had broken all the pigeons my SIL started down with new ones. I said leave those up here, we're not done yet. My Daughter said there are no more targets? I said see those orange chips on the board? She said, you can't hit them. I said I can, can you. First shot and she vaporized one. Love to teach new shooters to aim at small targets, to hit small targets.
Beautiful rifle! Where did the bullet impact, and what was the damage like?
210 yards, through the heart. Unspectacular as far as bullet performance, a cast 405 grain bullet at 1200 fps just pokes a 45 caliber hole. The bigger the meplat, the better the effect.
It is a Shiloh 1877 with presentation wood and a 5 year wait.