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Have an unfired flatbolt in 308.
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I could get behind a little 300 like that. I need to get behind it more and do a little more testing Scotty. That damn lightweight 300wby gives me a headache!!! ha ha.. What I was thinking about the other day is I'm slinging 178's and 175's in the WBY at roughly 3,200 fps and this little cute 300RSAUM is flinging the 165's at 3,030 fps avg.. That's not really a bunch of performance lost, but in a smaller package. I'm not going to say lighter because I think both of my 300wby's weighs about the same with the same/similar scope. But this Ruger doesn't rattle the noggin as much. Great little rifle. Too bad they didn't make more!!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I've had about 5 total, all in Mark ll's. I'm down to one now. It started life as a .280 Rem, barrel was junk, by the time I got it to shoot the way I wanted I could have bought 2 Remington's, but loved the wood stock so couldn't send it down the road.
They are basically a hunting rifle and that's it. I'm pretty sure no one has won a bench rest match with one, and I don't think anyone has won at Camp Perry with one. I've heard Jack Hill (Sierra bullet guy, one of the J's in J4 bullet jackets) that Bill Ruger gave John Buhmiller a 77 action and told him to build a shooter on it. Later Buhmiller gave it back to Ruger and told him that you have to start with something first.
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I've had about 5 total, all in Mark ll's. I'm down to one now. It started life as a .280 Rem, barrel was junk, by the time I got it to shoot the way I wanted I could have bought 2 Remington's, but loved the wood stock so couldn't send it down the road.
They are basically a hunting rifle and that's it. I'm pretty sure no one has won a bench rest match with one, and I don't think anyone has won at Camp Perry with one. I've heard Jack Hill (Sierra bullet guy, one of the J's in J4 bullet jackets) that Bill Ruger gave John Buhmiller a 77 action and told him to build a shooter on it. Later Buhmiller gave it back to Ruger and told him that you have to start with something first. No one said they were a benchrest or camp perry rifle. They do shoot well enough for what they are: A hunting rifle. Like a good Winchester model 70. They are hunting rifles and serve you very well. To get them to shoot acceptably well, you have to be willing to tinker a bit and be knowledgeable of the system. They can be fine tuned very well and most have great barrels, so you can wring them out quite a bit. I've had many that shot 1/2" or better groups, but after many trick moves and that was with factory barrels. If the idiot that you speak of couldn't get a Ruger m77 to shoot well, that is on his incompetence. Not the rifles. Just fu cking saying.. I used this 338wm for years. It was my "go to" for elk hunting. Not just because it shot so well. It was extremely dependable. There is a reason someone started this thread, titled "Ruger M77's". Some guys actually like them and appreciate them for what they are. Some guys cry and make excuses for what they are not or what they can't make them..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Hawkeye 223. Bedded it an stuck a spec-tec trigger in it. Fun little rifle
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bsa1917hunter, Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, but your statement the 77 like the Winchester 70 is a good hunting rifle and that's all. I'm pretty sure that David Tubb won Perry a few times with a Winchester 70. I'm pretty much down to one hunting rifle now and it's the above 77, so if I came across as bashing the 77, that was not my intent.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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bsa1917hunter, Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, but your statement the 77 like the Winchester 70 is a good hunting rifle and that's all. I'm pretty sure that David Tubb won Perry a few times with a Winchester 70. I'm pretty much down to one hunting rifle now and it's the above 77, so if I came across as bashing the 77, that was not my intent. No problem. One thing the 77 can handle is a little bashing. I've always said they are a diamond in the rough. Some guys don't like them because of that. Others can fine tune them and make them a bit more. All my Rugers function more like a well oiled machine or Model 70 esque, but the Ruger is what it is: A mass produced cast investment Receiver, which some do not like. They are very robust though in my experience. When most of us are searching for a really accurate rifle, the Ruger m77 is generally not what we think of. Some I've had were tack drivers, but it took a lot of work. I take them for what they are though, and I'm willing to make them better...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Mine needed bedded before I was happy with it. That stock just feels like it was made for me.
Been a while since I hunted with it. Might need to shoot a buck with it this year
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Mine needed bedded before I was happy with it. That stock just feels like it was made for me. That is one thing that really helps a Ruger 77..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Ignore the village idiot.. bsa1917hunter, Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, but your statement the 77 like the Winchester 70 is a good hunting rifle and that's all. I'm pretty sure that David Tubb won Perry a few times with a Winchester 70. I'm pretty much down to one hunting rifle now and it's the above 77, so if I came across as bashing the 77, that was not my intent.
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That’s a nice 223 hawkeye.
I also like the heavy barrel with sights M77 Hawkeye African in 223. As well as the RSI in 223.
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Ignore the village idiot.. bsa1917hunter, Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, but your statement the 77 like the Winchester 70 is a good hunting rifle and that's all. I'm pretty sure that David Tubb won Perry a few times with a Winchester 70. I'm pretty much down to one hunting rifle now and it's the above 77, so if I came across as bashing the 77, that was not my intent. You are awfully jealous aren't you and a piece of schit (POS). Why don't you go back to cooking your crack. You add nothing to any thread here. You shoot rocks and drugs..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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You are awfully jealous aren't you and a piece of schit (POS). Why don't you go back to cooking your crack. You add nothing to any thread here. You shoot rocks and drugs.. What the hell is the matter with you?
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I've had about 5 total, all in Mark ll's. I'm down to one now. It started life as a .280 Rem, barrel was junk, by the time I got it to shoot the way I wanted I could have bought 2 Remington's, but loved the wood stock so couldn't send it down the road.
They are basically a hunting rifle and that's it. I'm pretty sure no one has won a bench rest match with one, and I don't think anyone has won at Camp Perry with one. I've heard Jack Hill (Sierra bullet guy, one of the J's in J4 bullet jackets) that Bill Ruger gave John Buhmiller a 77 action and told him to build a shooter on it. Later Buhmiller gave it back to Ruger and told him that you have to start with something first. I've had at least 20 Rugers - tang safeties, MKII's and Hawkeye's. For sure they are hit and miss accuracy-wise (especially the tangers), but they are good, basic hunting rifles. Really, the MKII and Hawkeye are among the simplest, most reliable hard-condition actions ever made. If I lived in the bush and had to put meat on the table in awful conditions the MKII action would be right at the top of my list, followed by the M70. The biggest gripe I have with them is the roughness and clunkiness of the cast action. But that's just a minor nit-pick. We're talking here about hunting rifles, not match rifles. Any smith worth his salt can screw on a barrel and get a Ruger action shooting. One of the most accurate rifles I've ever used was an early Stainless MKII (before they made it CRF). In the 90's a friend had Mark Brown turn one it into a 257 WBY. That thing shot the original 100 grain Barnes X's into the .3's, and the original Barnes X was about the worst shooting bullet around!
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Lol if Ruger doesn't give a damn about making their rifles accurate, I sure as hell am not going to spend a bunch of time and money on it either.
Not when I can buy any of twenty other brands and slap a scope on them and go sub moa.
But I do appreciate the looks and design and classic lines of Ruger 77s. Too bad they always disappointed me.
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Lol if Ruger doesn't give a damn about making their rifles accurate, I sure as hell am not going to spend a bunch of time and money on it either.
Not when I can buy any of twenty other brands and slap a scope on them and go sub moa.
But I do appreciate the looks and design and classic lines of Ruger 77s. Too bad they always disappointed me. The MKII's I had were consistently better shooters than the tang safety M77's. Some were quite accurate I'd not hesitate to pick up a MKII or Hawkeye and expect to get reasonable accuracy out of it.
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Jealous of an insecure blow hard? That’s funny. Find any of those pics yet? Ignore the village idiot.. bsa1917hunter, Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, but your statement the 77 like the Winchester 70 is a good hunting rifle and that's all. I'm pretty sure that David Tubb won Perry a few times with a Winchester 70. I'm pretty much down to one hunting rifle now and it's the above 77, so if I came across as bashing the 77, that was not my intent. You are awfully jealous aren't you and a piece of schit (POS). Why don't you go back to cooking your crack. You add nothing to any thread here. You shoot rocks and drugs..
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Lol if Ruger doesn't give a damn about making their rifles accurate, I sure as hell am not going to spend a bunch of time and money on it either.
Not when I can buy any of twenty other brands and slap a scope on them and go sub moa.
But I do appreciate the looks and design and classic lines of Ruger 77s. Too bad they always disappointed me. The MKII's I had were consistently better shooters than the tang safety M77's. Some were quite accurate I'd not hesitate to pick up a MKII or Hawkeye and expect to get reasonable accuracy out of it. Fair enough. I have not tried the Hawkeyes. The mkII's I went oh for three and quit.
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