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The cited 2pc bases will mount low,granting objective clearance with caps,along with nice ring spacing,to hedge a bet. Said rings play nicely,are both low and light,while offering copious surface area on the tube and (6) cap fasteners per each ring. On top of that,the 'port remains clear,to aid in .532" feed/function...as they can want to leave the boltface at odd angles,as compared to .473". The '12x saves a coupla ounces of weight,but with a killer reticle and 35+ Mil's on the erector,"reach" is hardly a problem for killing. Hint.








No joy on 3-15X locking turrets,but soft stops are easily incorporated and I do. Next to a 3-15x here. Hint.



Nothing else has locking turrets,mechanical zero stop,35+ Mil's on the erector,illumination,FFP and a reticle that's so easily discerned through it's zoom range. With a 250yd modest zero,in a modest atmosphere,8 Mils on the reticle is 1150yds. Hint.

Now if this is a Play Toy Giggles Rifle and you've good eyes,you might prefer the '20x and it's finer reticle. For killing,the '12x is simply splendid,amazingly well rounded and FAST. Hint...............

Soft stops? Enlighten me.


(Well, I guess I can stop thinking of nicknames for it.)

This is definitely a Maxwell's gettin' weird rifle project, but if I like it, and the cartridge, I'll drag it along chasing muleys and antelope. Inevitably, and in spite of pre-season visions (delusions?) of 600 yard prone shots with my finger in the wind, that'll involve a lot of shooting inside 150 yards at lower power. So yeah, a practical reticle is a priority.

Well,I reckon if forced to "guess",it'd go like this. Hint.(grin)







Or locking turret caps and mechanical stop. Hint.

Locked.



Unlocked and of course windage behaves same. Hint.



Just sayin'..................

soft stops are garden hose rubber washers.

Check out Vortex Razor LHT 3-15. Perfect zoom range IMO, excellent glass, excellent illuminated reticle (just the center dot lights up, not the whole reticle - which I strongly prefer), locking elevation turret with capped windage, and a really nice size and weight. I have 5 and they have been dialed a bunch and have been perfect.

Haha your talkin about saving a “couple ounces”??? Lmfao😂😂

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What distances do you expect to shoot out to?

How are your eyes?

Trijicon accupoint

Eyes are good. Some of the best parts I have left.

My hope is to get more comfortable with shooting at distances over 300 yards. If I can become confident in my setup and abilities by shooting paper/steel at 500, 600, 700 yards, maybe more, I'll be better equipped to take longer shots on game (I currently consider anything over about 350 yards a long shot on game) when there's no way to get closer. I don't imagine pushing things past about >600 yards on animals, though. I don't want to start an ethics argument, but it seems clear that uncontrollable variables start to take over as you get much beyond that. A lot can happen in a second.

So long story short, distances will be <1000 yards, and hunting distances probably <600 yards.

Are there any Trijicon AccuPoints that meet my criteria, or are you just lobbing names of scopes out there?

The SWFA SS 5-20x is solid and meets your criteria (sample list right around $1000), though it’s a bit big for a hunting rifle. The Bushnell DMRII Pro can likely be found in your price range, and is a great scope, but has 34mm tube and is big and heavy.

If you can find an LRHS or LRTSi 3-12x or 4.5-18x, that would be a great option, as well. I have positive experience with the Trijicon Accupower, but haven’t used the higher magnification models so can’t opine there.

For that type of application, I typically look for an LRHS or grab a SS 3-9x. The SS 3-15x would probably be my choice from the options you’re currently looking at. The lack of reticle subtensions from 0-1 MRAD in the Athlon isn’t ideal, IMO, neither is the MIC origin. Not major issues, but would push me to the SS 3-15x if I couldn’t find a LRHS and 9x wasn’t enough.

SS HD 5-20x MQ. Hint.



DMR II. Hint.



LRHS G2(MUCH prefer G3) '18x. Hint.



LRTS G3 '18x. Hint.



LRTS G3 '12x. Hint.



LRTSi G3 '12x. Hint.



3-15x MQ FFP. Hint.



A wee bit of extrapolation,with a 2-12x FFP Mil/Mil Lit Bitch. Hint.



2-12x compared to 3-15x FFP MQ. Hint.




For killing,pass the 2-12X. The 3-12x G3 LRTSi is Skookum,but not as...due illumination and reticle differences. Hint.

Just saying.....................

Impressive collection, Stick. Size comparison is helpful.

Ok, I'm narrowing it down. I just looked through a LRHS 4.5-18x44 with, I believe, the G2 reticle at a local shop. Liked the scope all around, and really liked the reticle. $999.99, NOS. They have 2 of them.

However, I also have a line on a used SWFA SS 3-15x42 Mil-Quad for quite a lot less.

Is the LRHS that much better? I'm kinda frugal, and I'm kinda leaning toward the SS.

Side by each extrapolations,never ain't not handy. Hint.(grin)

My first LRHSi '18x (G2),was a steaming pile of fhuqking schit. Hint.








A pard wanted out of a 2nd one,for $400,so I rolled them dice. It behaves. Bushy offered ZERO intel on the maladies of the first(above) and flung me an LRTSi '18x. All of my LRTS/LRTSi's and DMR II's have been fhuqking exceptional and the 3-12x LRTSi Gen 3 STEALS the show. Hint.

I MUCH prefer the 2-12x to both. Hint...................

I Had the same experience with one Bushy LRHSi. The elevation dial just locked up - complete failure. Bushnell also sent me a LRSTi - no answers as to why the failure. I bought mine from GAP and I think the later models had poorer QC - at least that is my theory. The rest of my LRHS's have been stellar. Solid bargain.

I'm not oblivious to your hints, and everything about that Athlon makes sense. If it were made anywhere else, one would already be in the mail. Objection's got nothing to do with the quality or design of the product.

Yes, I'm typing this on a Chinese-made keyboard—I'm aware. No choice there.

'Bout to push the SS 3-15x42 button...

I'm simply a Realist and it's a Global Economy. Athlon is upfront and Reupold and the ilk,ain't. It is,what it is. Hint.





Locking turrets and illumination,sure are soothin'. Hint...............

I'd pull the trigger on that LRHS. Yes, the LRHS is better than the SS - not because it's more reliable (I think both are about on par in that regard) - but because it has a better feature set. Stellar zero stop, low-profile elevation turret and capped windage, for starters. I also really like the G2H reticle (it's a preference thing). I've had a bunch of LRHS/LRTS/DMR/XRS/etc., and I've yet to have a tracking or zero retention issue. I think Stick's tracking problem was pretty darn rare.

You could always buy both that LRHS and SS and sell the one you like least.

Also, keep in mind that the size comparison in Stick's picture shows the LRHS and LRTS scopes with sunshades installed, making them look longer than they are.

Oh, and in terms of mounting I'd simply go with a pic rail with appropriate inclination and a set of Burris XTR Signature Med rings.