|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,057 Likes: 2
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,057 Likes: 2 |
how does a 10mm compare to a 44 mag recoil wise? lets assume same model gun, same factory ammo loads etc...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,654 Likes: 11
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,654 Likes: 11 |
If 44 mag is a 100%, 10mm is about 65%
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 594
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 594 |
I do not have both calibers in the same model but I do have an S&W 69 and a Sig 220 which are close to the same weight. The sig with the hottest ammo is soft shooting. The 69 kicks.
I think Always got it about right.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,383
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,383 |
how does a 10mm compare to a 44 mag recoil wise? lets assume same model gun, same factory ammo loads etc... The 10mm will have about half the recoil. Remember, a 10mm is topped out with a 220 @1200fps, whereas a 44mag is usually a 240gr @1300fps and up. It even worse with a 44mag like the S&W329 which is much lighter than your typical 10mm.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,258 Likes: 11
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,258 Likes: 11 |
I do not have both calibers in the same model but I do have an S&W 69 and a Sig 220 which are close to the same weight. The sig with the hottest ammo is soft shooting. The 69 kicks.
I think Always got it about right. X2. It’s tough to compare given that they’re usually chambered in completely different platforms and are different calibers. A 10mm to a 41 Magnum is a more typical comparison but still usually completely different handgun types. A typical downloaded 10mm round in a pistol is snappy. A full house 44 Mag round in a revolver requires some actual muzzle control.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,057 Likes: 2
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,057 Likes: 2 |
If 44 mag is a 100%, 10mm is about 65% That’s good to hear. Been thinking about a 10mm to keep around as a gun to carry in the woods but don’t want to spend the $$ if it hits back like a 44 mag. I’ve owned 2 44 mags in my life-think I shot about 10rounds total and have decided for me the 44 mag is a rounds made for a Marlin lever gun 🤣🤣😉
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,238
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,238 |
Think the 65% comparison is about right. About 30 years ago I owned a 629 Classic 5” for about a two months and 1 box of shells. It sucked to shoot. No fun at all. The backstrap gnawed into my hand like a starving, pissed off, rabid wolverine! I sold it for what I paid for it, saved that money and scoured the Gun List issues for a couple of months until I found a 610 Classic, which I still own to this day. Same exact platform for both calibers…an absolute world of difference in shooting experience! Also it has the bonus of shooting .40 S & W rounds out of it!
Doc_Holidude
Last edited by Doc_Holidude; 10/25/22.
Livin ain’t killed me yet, but it’s workin on it!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,994
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 7,994 |
Shot my S&W model 29 44 mag with 300 gr cast loads & my Glock 10mm with 220 Gr Buffalo Bore loads have owned the S&W since early 80,s.
Shot them both fast same target distance, amazing how much faster and better accuracy with the Glock dont think I have fired the S&W since I bought the Glock.
I carry the 10mm I can go out the door with 45 rounds on last minute boat trips or hikes quickly without hunting down ammo for the S&W.
Last edited by kk alaska; 10/26/22.
kk alaska
Alaska 7 months of winter then 5 months of tourists
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,652 Likes: 34
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 25,652 Likes: 34 |
Shooting a 629 versus a 610 with full house hard cast in both I’d say the difference,at least perceived, difference is almost nothing, at least for me it doesn’t seem like that much difference. That’s my honest real world opinion.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
--------------------------------------------------------- ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 1,102
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 1,102 |
Depends on the gun. My 329 kicks like a mule whereas my Grand 10 is no drama.
However for serious business no 10 equals a 320 hardcast at 1100 fps from a 44 mag.
Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep It starts when you're always afraid Step out of line, the man come and take you away
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,669
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,669 |
I've owned three .44 Magnums, still have both 4 inch Smiths. One is a 25.5 oz. 329, and the other is a 43 oz. 29. I owned a 1006 smith for over 20 years. A bit heavier gun. I've shot a couple of 39 oz. 1911, 10 mm's. No comparison. The 1911's were sharper recoiling than those than those 1911's in .45 ACP. But, with hot 185 gr. loads, say 1150 fps. w/ a 185 gr. HP, the difference was pretty small. The 43 oz., all steel 29 is much heavier recoiling than the like weight 10's. On the order of 50-100% more. Alot depends on the gun's fit to one's hand. A couple of other things. The 10mm has no where near the sharp muzzle blast of the .44 magnums. I had a 43 oz. Smith 57 with a 4 inch barrel for a few years. 15% of the .44 Mags recoil is about right. Still more. The 10 mm is not "hot" loaded by most factory ammo companies for good reason. As a hand loader of some 64 years experience, I can tell you is goes critical with any small change in components. E
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,258 Likes: 11
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,258 Likes: 11 |
If 44 mag is a 100%, 10mm is about 65% That’s good to hear. Been thinking about a 10mm to keep around as a gun to carry in the woods but don’t want to spend the $$ if it hits back like a 44 mag. I’ve owned 2 44 mags in my life-think I shot about 10rounds total and have decided for me the 44 mag is a rounds made for a Marlin lever gun 🤣🤣😉 I’m not a fan of full power 44 Mag loads but my S&W 629 downloaded to a hot 44 Special is one of my favorite guns to shoot.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,224 Likes: 2
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,224 Likes: 2 |
The revolver will have more recoil. My revolver shooting .40 180 has > recoil than G20 10mm. The .44 Magnum will obviously kick > 10mm revolver or pistol.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,539 Likes: 30
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,539 Likes: 30 |
The revolver will have more recoil. My revolver shooting .40 180 has > recoil than G20 10mm. The .44 Magnum will obviously kick > 10mm revolver or pistol. Your Airsoft guns don’t count, DUMBASS. Go change your dirty diaper.
Last edited by chlinstructor; 10/26/22.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,224 Likes: 2
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,224 Likes: 2 |
I find it comical how many Americans are awed by 10mm auto as the Vikings were with ⚒️ of Thor. 😱 This super respect for the round is....😆😂🤣 🤭. Uuuuuuuh, ooopooh, you are shooting this powerhouse?🤣🤣🤣🤣 You know .45ACP is 11,43x23?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 4,814
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 4,814 |
I find it comical how many Americans are awed by 10mm auto as the Vikings were with ⚒️ of Thor. 😱 This super respect for the round is....😆😂🤣 🤭. Uuuuuuuh, ooopooh, you are shooting this powerhouse?🤣🤣🤣🤣 You know .45ACP is 11,43x23? Saw you took out good guy sock coppersolid again.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 4,189 Likes: 11
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 4,189 Likes: 11 |
10 mm comes in a wide range of factory offerings. Most companies it's only loaded a little hotter than 40 s&w . Underwood, Buffalo bore and a few others load real 10mm . With that being said 10mm is a pussycat to a heavy 44 load. My current guns in 10 are a G29 and G20 neither are uncomfortable to shoot even with heavy 10mm . 44 loaded heavy ( 275-330 gr HC) will get your attention especially in a 4 -5 " revolver.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,258 Likes: 11
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 10,258 Likes: 11 |
I find it comical how many Americans are awed by 10mm auto as the Vikings were with ⚒️ of Thor. 😱 This super respect for the round is....😆😂🤣 🤭. Uuuuuuuh, ooopooh, you are shooting this powerhouse?🤣🤣🤣🤣 You know .45ACP is 11,43x23? Stupid. 10mm makes a lot of sense as a woods or bear cartridge in a pistol which is usually what it’s popular for. Do you believe that a .45 ACP is comparable for that purpose?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,654 Likes: 11
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,654 Likes: 11 |
There may be reasons not to buy a 10mm ,but recoil isn't one. I've let novice women shooters try my RIA 10mm hicap and they did fine.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,224 Likes: 2
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,224 Likes: 2 |
No Mr."Stupid". S&W makes couple .460 Magnum revolvers with shorter barrels. This is preferable because one can shoot .454 and .45 Colt out of those guns. If cast lead loads are shot care should be taken to remove lead from cylinder/bore before shooting longer magnums in order to prevent cylinder damage. For sake of time more powerful handgun is needed when facing very large bear, or Mr. 🐻 will get you. What I mean is you will run out of time well before you run out of ammunition. 😱☠️👻The 10mm pistol not goot for this situation.
|
|
|
|
549 members (12344mag, 160user, 10gaugeman, 117LBS, 1234, 06hunter59, 62 invisible),
2,738
guests, and
1,202
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,194,795
Posts18,536,418
Members74,041
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|