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Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, #17744269 10/28/22
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OP ol_mike Campfire Ranger O Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 24,459 Likes: 12 Arkansas	some models hold a lot of ammo. PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!! Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744277 10/28/22
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Birdwatcher Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 37,916 Likes: 2 San Antonio TX	I think it can if you shoot them with it. "...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744287 10/28/22
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DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,166 Likes: 14 In the Swamps	It’s not the gun so much as the shooter that matters. I think the 9mm is a pussy cartridge. 😁 I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744291 10/28/22
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rainshot Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 12,043 Likes: 2 Texas	Biden says it’ll blow a lung out so you know it’s powerful.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744296 10/28/22
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bellydeep Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,638 E of the Rockies, W of the res...	Nope. Never. Originally Posted by shrapnel I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. Originally Posted by JohnBurns I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.

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Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744297 10/28/22
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wabigoon Campfire Kahuna W Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 60,937 Likes: 15 Iowa/NW Ontario	I'd rather be behind, than in front of. These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, DigitalDan #17744298 10/28/22
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Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,536 Likes: 22 Montana	Originally Posted by DigitalDan It’s not the gun so much as the shooter that matters. I think the 9mm is a pussy cartridge. 😁 Haha! Maybe....but you wouldn't stand in front of Jerry M if he was armed with one! I am MAGA.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, bellydeep #17744299 10/28/22
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Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,536 Likes: 22 Montana	Originally Posted by bellydeep Nope. Never. I have killed several sheep and a couple cows with one. I am MAGA.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744300 10/28/22
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CashisKing Campfire Ranger C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,807 Likes: 8 Anywhere people are Less Stupi...	I have been carrying a Glock 19 since 1986... (or another model Glock). I have extreme confidence that I can use it effectively to stop a human threat in general proximity to my person. If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744301 10/28/22
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Stormin_Norman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,312 NW MT	Well if the attacker is an angry trash panda you are probably fine. A methed out hobo might be a bit much. "Life is tough, even tougher if your stupid" John Wayne

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Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744305 10/28/22
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antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 31,006 Likes: 1 Colorado	Here's a very scientific study on the matter involving two doctors: You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744306 10/28/22
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SamOlson Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 43,907 Likes: 11 Hi-Line	I've been wondering about the 22LR as threat reducer.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744310 10/28/22
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TheLastLemming76 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 10,178 Likes: 3 Michigan	9x19mm is my go to. It’s cheap and quiet even with supersonic bulk ammo shot through PCC’s or pistols with a can. I’ve always been a Glock guy but my current carry gun is a Sig 365 Macro. I love it. The grip leads up to a high bore axis hold better than any pistol that I’ve owned and is slim while holding 17 rounds in a standard flush fit mag. I’ve never noticed much difference in standard velocity 9mm Vs 45 ACP recoil but 9mm is noticeably quieter suppressed, statistically they’re about the same in stopping power and more rounds is a real thing. I think you’re bored tonight OP. Run out of chips and dip😂

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, ol_mike #17744311 10/28/22
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,773 Likes: 20 USA	Not according to Jeff Cooper. You need at least a .40 in his opinion, and a .45 is best.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, SamOlson #17744317 10/28/22
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CashisKing Campfire Ranger C Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 21,807 Likes: 8 Anywhere people are Less Stupi...	Originally Posted by SamOlson I've been wondering about the 22LR as threat reducer. It may be ugly, but 33 Stingers ain't no joke... If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, Jim_Conrad #17744321 10/28/22
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chlinstructor Campfire Kahuna Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 69,279 Likes: 14 TX	Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad Originally Posted by bellydeep Nope. Never. I have killed several sheep and a couple cows with one. I put down one of our old cows with one. It’s all I had with me that day. 124 gr Speer Gold Dot HP + P load. Gun barrel was about 6” from the center of her forehead. Dead Right there. "Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!" ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, TheLastLemming76 #17744323 10/28/22
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Stickfight Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,712 Likes: 7 The state of Excellence	Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76 stopping power I believe that is spelled stoppan powah.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, The_Real_Hawkeye #17744333 10/28/22
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TheLastLemming76 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 10,178 Likes: 3 Michigan	Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Not according to Jeff Cooper. You need at least a .40 in his opinion, and a .45 is best. I’m a Cooper fan and a 1911 fan. He wasn’t wrong but was a product of a different era IMO. Were he around today and 35 years old. I suspect that he’d be an advocate of polymer striker fired 9’s.

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, Birdwatcher #17744337 10/28/22
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Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon	Originally Posted by Birdwatcher I think it can if you shoot them with it. In the face. 🦫 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”

Re: Can a 9mm defend against an attacker, SamOlson #17744339 10/28/22
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chlinstructor Campfire Kahuna Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 69,279 Likes: 14 TX	Originally Posted by SamOlson I've been wondering about the 22LR as threat reducer. Got shot in the leg with one in HS by one of my dumb ass buddies. Stung like a mofo. Luckily he didn’t hit bone or an artery. Passed all the way through. I wouldn’t recommend it. 😬 "Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!" ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

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