Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Can a 9mm defend against an attacker,

.45 is 11.43mm.

Not enough muzzle energy and stuff.

The 10mm crowd is extra super hilarious.

Half of them have never chronograph'd what they're spending money on.

any data or comparison?

The answer is yes 9mm will work. No different than hunting, bullet placement!

If you fail to train frequently in a realistic manner, do not use a shot timer and do not always carry your weapon of choice you revert to "stopping power" discussions.



mike r

As to caliber ,I was not one to force anyone one way or the other. My criteria was just carry what you can shoot/handle well and hit with. Our policy was limiting enough. I have worked with some range staff who have had and voiced opinions on caliber as the end all, be all choice. Shooter confidence in what you carry is a big factor in effectiveness.

Yes.

Well, I'm a firm believer in the 1911 in .45 ACP. However, I have never felt poorly armed when carrying a 9MM. In certain neighborhoods, the larger magazine capacity of a 9MM can be a comforting factor. Just never saw a 9MM that really tripped my trigger although the S&W 6906 came close. Twelve plus one up the spout. Could use the 15 round magazines from the S&W 59 IIRC. I even had a Star in .40 cal. for a while. A very short while. I shot it and it was decently accurate, smaller than a 1911 but a lot heavier. I sold it at a slight profit and wished the new owner well.

I usually carry a Colt Combat Commander .45 ACP concealed with an S&W M60 .38 Spl. as a back up. Spare magazines are two Wilson 10 rounders and 2 speed loaders for the .38. Sometimes it's only the .38 which is easier to hide in my vehicle when going to the doctor's office or other medical facility. State law doesn't allow weapons of any kind in doctor's offices or medical facilities.
PJ

Frankly, any firearm is better than no firearm.

Clothing limitations, social limitations, and location visiting usually have more influence on what I'm carrying (and I carry wherever and whenever I can) than academic arguments about "stopping power", caliber, 15 shots vs. 8 shots, striker vs. hammer vs. revolver, etc...

A Colt pocket pistol .25acp in your hand trumps a 10mm Glock G40 back home in the safe.

Every. Single. Time.

All that being said, my vehicle guns are all either .45 acp or 10mm full-sized semi autos.

I tend to carry my Colt Detective Special with Hornady Critical Defense .38 +P more than anything else, becasue it fits in my little pocket holster in my jeans pocket, so never an issue of concealment in any weather, any social condition, any location.

I'd prefer to be carrying a 5" barreled 10mm, but that is often not a practical option.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q...form=IQFRBA&first=1&disoverlay=1

Sig used to offer the nightmare carry in .357 Sig. You may find one on the used market.

I have both a p229 and a p226 in .357 sig .... great cartridge. BTW, the upper on a p226 and p229 work with either a .357 sig or a .40 S&W barrel. I've got both barrels for my p226 and p229.

Dear God…

Full size auto and revolver for decades.

Am thrilled w my P365

I carry a G19, G17 or G34 quite frequently.

More often than not with a single spare magazine, often a 24 round Glock factory mag, though in the hottest part of summer I tend to carry the standard capacity 17 round mags more.

In my vehicle I keep some Glock factory 24 round versions.










I carry my own 148 grain +P hard cast flat point that clocks 1,100 FPS out of a G17, and is a very good load for deep penetration. (thats what she said! :D)





JWP475 picked some up from me and shot some into 20% gel (10% is normally the standard for handgun testing).

They did very well, to say the least.










I switched over to these for an all-around load back when the whole country was having issues with people rioting, flipping over cars, dragging innocent people out of cars, etc, all because they felt like it. I figured if I need to defend my family, I want something that will shoot through barriers, car doors, intermediate objects, etc.

Plus due to being in an area with large predators I wanted something that could be a dual purpose load. Something that would serve my needs for the trail/hunting/hiking and home/urban defense.


The punchline is that I have ZERO issue carrying a 9mm with the proper ammo, and do carry one. I carry a 9mm, .40, .45, 44 mag and .45 Colt as well. It simply depends on my needs at that time, and what I feel like carrying.

That said, I would certainly not put down the 9mm, as it has shown that it is extremely effective with the proper projectile, and skilled application.

40 cal ammo is now cheaper then 9mm. The one hold up to our switch over to 9mm was buying the ammo to do it. 9mm was so in demand that we waited 10 months to get our ammo.

In my pocket now.

Jerry and his wife Kay use to own a small gun shop In Louisiana.
Sold them quite a few guns when I worked in the Wholesale Firearms Industry.
His wife, Kay, the daughter of famed gunsmith Jim Clark, is a very accomplished Competition Shooter also, as is their daughter. Good folks all.

Funny how a 9mm is never enough to shoot a human, but a 223 is more than adequate to shoot big game. When did humans become so bullet proof?

Rather have one of my .45s than a 9mm in Murderapolis...

When some perps began wearin' bullet-proof vests??