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Illegal by federal law I do believe. What do you think? Would you call this crime extremely under-enforced?

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I think you should be allowed to carry if your under the influence of alcohol too.
Why should you loose the right to defend yourself or loved ones because you have been drinking?
If something happens and the shooting is ruled unjustifiable in a court of law then you’ll have to pay the price. But if it’s justified your still alive to drink another day.

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Originally Posted by BrigGeneralSTU
Illegal by federal law I do believe. What do you think? Would you call this crime extremely under-enforced?

The right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Under the constitution, the federal gov't does not have the authority to ban drug or alcohol users, nor convicted felons, from owning guns. Such laws are themselves illegal.


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Originally Posted by T_O_M
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Illegal by federal law I do believe. What do you think? Would you call this crime extremely under-enforced?

The right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Under the constitution, the federal gov't does not have the authority to ban drug or alcohol users, nor convicted felons, from owning guns. Such laws are themselves illegal.

This.


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2A is pretty clearly written. The problem is citizens that put the "laws" first, then the Constitution.

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Show me a law on the books in 1796 disallowing possession due to being under the influence, then I would agree with current law. Sans anything to that, their current laws are unconstitutional.


To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.-Richard Henry Lee

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Personal responsibility...

That and it should not be a federal schedule 1 substance


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Check out the latest ATF 4733 form your FFL has you fill out.

NOW it states, "do you use Cannabis, Marijuana, legal or illegal". On the current Class III form, that statement is highlighted. I don't remember seeing that on previous Class III forms.

If you check yes, I think they may disqualify you. Not sure, but why would they otherwise ask?

If you check no and the Pharmacy Management Program (PMP) in your states picks up a legal MJ recommendation, then you've probably committed fraud on a Fed form.

Feds have a scorched policy on MJ but let CA, CO and other states do their thing.

Ya think the Fed Govt may be a tad schizophrenic?

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Canabis Marijuana rather its legal or not this substance can stay in your blood system for up to 40 days ,so be careful ? blood tests ? that might be next to ruin your life ?


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Originally Posted by worriedman
Show me a law on the books in 1796 disallowing possession due to being under the influence, then I would agree with current law. Sans anything to that, their current laws are unconstitutional.
^^^ A N D T H I S ^^^

Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

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The only ones that should be denied firearms are those IN PRISON. If you are out you are legal.


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Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
The only ones that should be denied firearms are those IN PRISON. If you are out you are legal.


I've always felt this way. If/When they release someone..... they are saying that they have paid their dues and are not a threat to society. So WHY are you denying them a right?


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Originally Posted by MrClean
Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
The only ones that should be denied firearms are those IN PRISON. If you are out you are legal.


I've always felt this way. If/When they release someone..... they are saying that they have paid their dues and are not a threat to society. So WHY are you denying them a right?

If they gun down one of your family, and then are eventually left out, which happens on a regular basis, have they paid their dues? Karen liberal judge made the decision they are not a threat.


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Originally Posted by battue
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Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
The only ones that should be denied firearms are those IN PRISON. If you are out you are legal.


I've always felt this way. If/When they release someone..... they are saying that they have paid their dues and are not a threat to society. So WHY are you denying them a right?

If they gun down one of your family, and then are eventually left out, which happens on a regular basis, have they paid their dues? Karen liberal judge made the decision they are not a threat.

Now you have solved the problem. If they killed somebody ( first degree) they should be executed. Don’t have to worry about repeat offenders. Hasbeen


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Legal or illegal I don’t want someone high or drunk handling a firearm around me. That includes hunters. My buddies like yo drink at camp, but that is always kept for nighttime.


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