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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
It sounds like the Accubond Long Range will be a better fit than the standard Accubond for the distance/speed in the original post. Shot placement and game hunted not being stated.

I've used the 129 ABLR out of a 6.5 CM on a lot of deer from near to far the last few years and it's been perfect performance at all distances with shot placement from lungs to shoulders. Again, my experience with the 129 ABLR is limited to deer at 6.5 CM speeds, so I can't speak for other game.
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Originally Posted by Igloo
Given that you're on the edge (or under) the performance window of the Accubond at those ranges might the ELD-X be better? or ABLR? A bullet actually made to perform at long range, in either case.


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Have you ever tried the 120 BT for closer shots like this? Sample size of exactly one big doe at 120-130 yards but it was a "three hop" death run and internal damage was impressive. No exit but I did stick it through a front shoulder.
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My two cents….I’d pass on the NAB at that range. I shot a pronghorn at 580 yards with a 110 NAB started at 3200 fps from my 25-06. Knocked him down, but required finishing shot after he struggled to his feet when I got to about 200 yards. Upon cleaning, it was fairly evident that there wasn’t a lot of bullet expansion on the first hit.


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Originally Posted by Igloo
Beretz,

Have you ever tried the 120 BT for closer shots like this? Sample size of exactly one big doe at 120-130 yards but it was a "three hop" death run and internal damage was impressive. No exit but I did stick it through a front shoulder.

Another sample of one, but I shot a good buck with a 120 BT from a Creedmoor at roughly 60 yard. MV was 3000 fps. High shoulder, DRT. Exit wasn’t significant enough for me to remember 5 years later.

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The 130g nab is very effective at 2900 fps mv.

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Originally Posted by 280Ackleyrized
Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
It sounds like the Accubond Long Range will be a better fit than the standard Accubond for the distance/speed in the original post. Shot placement and game hunted not being stated.

I've used the 129 ABLR out of a 6.5 CM on a lot of deer from near to far the last few years and it's been perfect performance at all distances with shot placement from lungs to shoulders. Again, my experience with the 129 ABLR is limited to deer at 6.5 CM speeds, so I can't speak for other game.
Im a shoulder shooter. I don't shoot ribcage. I HATE tracking rifle shot deer. High shoulder shot remedies that. They die. Instantly. Every single time

I understand. I'm open to the best shot available based on the situation. If I'm way up the mountain and it's a long downhill exit I'm happy to pop lungs and let them run downhill. If I'm exiting horizontal or up the mountain I'm sitting them down with a shoulder shot if at all possible! Sometimes I just have to take the shot that's offered. The 129 ABLR has been good for both in my experience.

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I'd personally go for the 6.5mm 130gn Accubond in 6.5CM and .260 and leave the 140gn for the bigger cases (264 Win and 6.5/300 Weatherby etc.). Or as suggested by others above, go a bullet made to expand at longer ranges.

I like Accubonds and have used them extensively in my 280 (140gn) and .35 Whelen (225gn) and have quite a few more on the shelf that I haven't hunted with yet (.25 110gn, .26 130gn, .30 150, .36 250gn).

The fact that Nosler brought out a Long Range Accubond may give a clue about the standard Accubond's expansion characteristics at longer ranges.

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Nosler makes bullets designed to work in a 6.5 creedmoor at 500 or 600 yards. They put a LR designation on the bullet which stands for "Long Range" and come in 129 or 142




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For the velocity of the Creed, the AB is just not necessary. The farther you shoot, the worse the expansion will be. They would be OK for closer shots, but why not use something that will expand better, if you think that you need to shoot that far?


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130 AB did not expand at 2000 fps in milk jugs in my tests. 127 LRX did.

I'd use a 129sst for the ranges you are speaking of. My rifle shoots the LRX and SST to the same poi, so I hunt with the LRX out to 400,
and keep some SST loads in case I need to shoot farther.


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Killed an elk at 505 with the 140 Accubonds. Shot her twice and both exited with significant damage. Could have shot once but she was still standing. The first shot entered close to the last rib and angled forward and came out the front of the left shoulder. I thought that was impressive penetration. Was shooting a 18” Barret Fieldcraft with a DeadAir Sandman Ti suppressor. Seems my muzzle velocity was 2730 off the top of my head.

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Originally Posted by JohnChilds
Killed an elk at 505 with the 140 Accubonds. Shot her twice and both exited with significant damage. Could have shot once but she was still standing. The first shot entered close to the last rib and angled forward and came out the front of the left shoulder. I thought that was impressive penetration. Was shooting a 18” Barret Fieldcraft with a DeadAir Sandman Ti suppressor. Seems my muzzle velocity was 2730 off the top of my head.


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