Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 6mm Rem vs .250-3000?

I've always wanted a bolt gun in .250-3000, but finding one reasonably has been a challenge. A few months ago, I picked up a '50s Rem 722 in .244 instead, but haven't done much with it. Due to the slow twist rate, I'm limited to 80-85gr bullets, but I'd honestly prefer the 100s. Well, as luck would have it, I was able to snag a 1970 Ruger 77 flat bolt in 6mm Rem, which should have a fast enough twist rate for 100gr stuff.

I've killed several deer with a .243 and 100gr bullets, but have yet to use the 6mm Rem. Question is, does a 6mm Rem with a 100gr bullet really give up much compared with a .250-3000 with 100-115gr bullets?

Six of one half dozen of another. If I wanted a Savage 99 I'd want the 250-3000 but in a bolt gun I'd go for the 6mm if those were the options.

If you've killed deer with a .243 you've basically killed deer with the 6mm Rem. So you pretty much know how it'll work. With a .250 Sav you're baically 200 fps slower with the same bullet weight than the 6mm Rem. However, it won't bounce off of deer.

Especially with modern bullets, I’d call it a toss-up. Nice snag on the Ruger, but you could’ve pushed the easy button with a 6 Creedmoor, and had even more (moor?) bullets to play with. Still can, of course if you want to someday.

Buy brass or ammo for the 6 every chance you get.

Remington initially gave the 244 a 1 in 12" ROT and offered 2 different 90 grain factory loads that were intended for shooting medium game, a soft point and a bronze point. My 244 is a late 725 that has a 1-10" ROT, so no problem loading 100 grain bullets. If you want to hunt with the 722, I'd recommend trying the 85 grain Partition, 90 grain AB, and/or 90 grain BT. Bullet placement and construction counts for more than 10 or 15 grains of bullet weight, or so it seems to me.

I'd expect the Ruger 77 in 6mm REM to have either a 1-9" or 1-10" ROT, so 100 grain bullets would work fine.

AFAIK, the only cataloged 250-3000 bolt action rifles made in the past 50 years that have a 1-10" ROT are the Rugers and the Remington 700 Classic. The Winchester 70 Lightweight Carbine has a 1-14" ROT, a real head scratcher for a rifle cataloged when the only cataloged factory loads had 100 grain bullets.

I don't think that there is any practical/meaningful difference between the 6mm REM and the 250-3000 if you're shooting comparable bullets. The 6mm REM has a little more case capacity than the 250-3000, so you could get a little more velocity out of it, but not enough to be significant in most cases.

I have a .250-3000 with a fast twist (Ruger #1A with a new Douglas barrel) which handles 100 grain bullets just fine. But, I use 87 grain Speers regardless because they're accurate and what's 13 grains of bullet weight anyway.

In my 700 Classic, I slowly worked up to 3003fps with 100gr NBTs and RL15. Same cases reloaded seven times using Lee collet dies. But deer haven't noticed whether they're hit with 2850 or 3000fps. They just end up in the freezer.

Have a 6mm and a 243 use 95gr hornady sst in both. Most are bang flop with both. Dont have a 250 but a 257 Roberts use 117 factory remington. Not much difference on game between the 3.

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Right on Remguy

Back in the 60's I shot hundreds of rounds through a 244 Sako. I loaded all kinds of bullets, old Herter's 70gr hp shot the best (I had to shoot cheap stuff then but they were good) lol. Deer hunting loads I tried varied from 85gr to 105 Speer round nose.
If they would not stay inside the 2 1/2" center at 250 yards they were rejected. The Nosler shot the best but I cannot remember if it was 85 or 90 grain bullet. I know it was 4064 powder. Lots of new bullets since I loaded for the 244 so you should be fine Jason.

I started my three sons off with a 250-3000 and it was a deer slayer, I think they killed ten deer with it that I can remember and all were one shot kills with little or no tracking, shots were 50-100 yards which helps. I remember sitting next to them with my 300 WSM thinking "well, this it totally unnecessary". I started with a Win 70 Compact and sent it to Douglas for a new barrel in 250-3000 to match the factory featherweight contour and dropped it in the stock. Factory 100 PSP Remington was all it took to get it done.

Jason,

Don't underestimate your "old" 244 722 with the 1:12 twist. I have one as well and have been more than pleased with it's performance with 85g partitions hunting to well over 600 yards on multiple antelope, deer, etc. I've also take a cow elk at 200 yards (complete pass-through with the partition turning lung wounds to "jelly") which stood and DRT. The old 722 is accurate and a "keeper"! I imagine the Barnes 85g mono performance would be similar. Nothing wrong with 70g hpbt offerings on the varmints.

I have not shot steel out to 1000 yards with mine, but I would imagine that is where the newer factory 6mm designs with the 1:7 or 1:8 twists would come into their own. 6mm Creed for me in that case but you'll have to build a custom if you want a blued/walnut classic styled gun. The new stuff are for the most part all "Buck Rogers" guns in comparison. Decide what YOU want!

I'll agree with one of the other posters on the 250 3000 Savage... that has lever action written all over it! Not that certain bolt rifles would not be nice but I don't see where you gain anything over a 6mm. JMHO.

Good luck!

Many .244's with the 12" twist shoot 100 grain bullets just fine. I would try it before just assuming.

My 6mm is an older flavor with the 1:12 and it does fine with 100 gr bullets. It's a tight competition with my 250 and 117 gr bullets - but my 250 is AI'd.

I'd give the 6 Rem the nod over a 250-3000. Improve the 250 and it's very close.

my 6mm Rem in an after market barrel ( Pac Nor), heavy magnum contour... stainless, 24 inch, 1 in 7 contour..

Allows me to shoot a 115 grain Berger at 3300 fps MV....it is substantially flatter shooting than a lot of 6mm Remingtons, with original factory specs.

Interesting about the 100gr bullets in 1/12 twist....now I have to try it in the .244!

I bought a 6mm over a 243 because the 6mm with the proper twist rate and heavy bullets is a handloaders dream. It can be loaded to much higher velocities than the 243.

Having said that, I was once chasing a modern 250 savage bolt gun and couldnt find one anywhere. I finally settled on a bolt gun in 257 Roberts and never looked back. I now own 8 Roberts guns and deer hunt with them almost exclusively. Still a few new rifles chambered for it even.

I never felt the 243 needed more velocity.

If it's a factory rifle marked 6mm it has a tighter twist than 12.

If marked 244 it is a 12 twist. Get some 85 grain Partitons and roll on.

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