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That is not a "problem" except in the minds of anal retentives.
All LR primers will fire all powder charges as they have forever.
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Are you saying Federal was full of it when they brought out the 215 primer for the 378 weatherby?
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That is not a "problem" except in the minds of anal retentives.
All LR primers will fire all powder charges as they have forever. I'm a perfectionist, and I admit it. It comes hand-in-hand with 150 IQ in my case. You do you, boo.
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All LR primers will fire all powder charges as they have forever. Thank you, Captain Obvious. Clearly, they will fire the powder. The concern is the amount of pressure created. All LR primers do not create the same chamber pressure when all other variables are held constant.
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Or result in the same accuracy....
Plus, in my low-temperature experiments SOME standard primers have resulted in hang-fires or even misfires. A lot depends on the powder, but obviously Riddler/Troll has never done much testing along those lines....
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Riddler = Larry Root. 'Nuff said.
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Yep--who knows everything, including how to "lift" images of rifles from the Internet that he's never owned--yet somehow shoots half-inch groups with 'em!
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In the Norma Reloading Manual Vol.2 they use WLRM in all LR primer applications, even in rounds like the 250 Savage.
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And what is your conclusion from that?
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That that is all they had at hand :-))
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Or result in the same accuracy....
Plus, in my low-temperature experiments SOME standard primers have resulted in hang-fires or even misfires. A lot depends on the powder, but obviously Riddler/Troll has never done much testing along those lines.... Just out of curiosity, were CCI200 among the some? I had issues with them lighting up some ball powders well during northern MN winters when I was living there.
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zcm82,
They might have been--I'd have to look through my loading notes--but do specifically recall problems with Federal 210s.
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That that is all they had at hand :-)) That would be my guess as well!
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Thanks. I haven't used many Fed LR, but I know the CCIs generally run a bit slower velocity vs WLR or Rem 9.5 with the same charges in most of the cartidges I load, so I had assumed they must be a bit milder primers compared to the others.
I pretty much went to all stick powders after I had that happen, too. I generally run mild to middling loads in my LR stuff, so ball can get kind of froggy, anyway.
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Yep!
WLRs are probably the hottest American "standard" large rifle primer. Have used them with very good results with spherical powders in a number of "standard" cartridges with a case capacity of 50-60 grains, even in cold weather.
But extruded powders with milder primers work just as well in the same rounds.....
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Yep--who knows everything, including how to "lift" images of rifles from the Internet that he's never owned--yet somehow shoots half-inch groups with 'em! Just for grins, let's see those lifted images of the rifles claimed to be owned as well as pics of the 1/2" groups. "Better to stay silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and prove you are a fool" (and liar)
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Yep!
WLRs are probably the hottest American "standard" large rifle primer. Have used them with very good results with spherical powders in a number of "standard" cartridges with a case capacity of 50-60 grains, even in cold weather.
But extruded powders with milder primers work just as well in the same rounds..... Yeah, I use a lot of WLR, but have a few pet loads with the CCIs. A4064 seems to really favor the 200s in most of the cartridges I've used it in. IMR3031 has responded well to them for a few things, too.
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Still waiting for stolen pics and 1/2" group.
Could a guy with 56,000 posts possibly be wrong ? Taken in by the troll patrol ?
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"Stolen" right off my iPhone ! LOL !!!
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If only there were a way to inspect image properties.
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