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Well, this dollar based country whipped the ever living schit out of his.
LOL I’d have to give most of the credit to the Russians who did most of the dying and killing. We mostly made chit for the war. Mmmm, no.
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To be fair we wailed on the Japs. Absolutely throttled them True enough. But the Japanese fought back. The USMC was seriously depleted after their island hopping campaign during WW2.
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To be fair we wailed on the Japs. Absolutely throttled them True enough. But the Japanese fought back. The USMC was seriously depleted after their island hopping campaign during WW2. Thanks for that tidbit, Bristoe. LOL
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Some of you all need to go re-read some history books.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Some of you all need to go re-read some history books. No schitt..... It's like a episode of drunk history on here at times... 🤦♂️
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WWII in europe was decided at the gates of Moscow in the Winter of 1940-41. It was all downhill from there. There was nothing the Gernans could have done once Barbarossa was crushed that could have saved them from their eventual defeat. They were not set up for attrition.
Personally i wish Hitler would have destroyed the soviet barbarian horde completely. Then the US could unleash the dogs of war and destroy the Germans in due time...and we could have.
The world has never seen a more efficient killing machine than the US. It would have been nice to have had communism dealt with in the 40s...instead we fight it still today and within our own country.
Imagine the combined strength of the US Navy and Army...we would rule the baltic...the black sea...you name it. We could have fielded 300 divisions if we wanted to. 6 divisions of combat hardened marines with the blood of the japs still dripping from their bayonets...marching through the fulda gap...oh man.
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Some of you all need to go re-read some history books. Un-fugking-real the schit people say.
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10-4. the Russians did 70% of the heavy lifting. They did 70% of the heavy DYING, but it it wasn't for the US, WWII would have had an entirely different outcome I was going to say the same thing. The USSR couldn't feed itself, transport its army or have an airforce without the US. The appalling soviet casualtie numbers where because the soviets leadership was a bunch of Neanderthals.
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WWII in europe was decided at the gates of Moscow in the Winter of 1940-41. It was all downhill from there. There was nothing the Gernans could have done once Barbarossa was crushed that could have saved them from their eventual defeat. They were not set up for attrition.
Personally i wish Hitler would have destroyed the soviet barbarian horde completely. Then the US could unleash the dogs of war and destroy the Germans in due time...and we could have.
The world has never seen a more efficient killing machine than the US. It would have been nice to have had communism dealt with in the 40s...instead we fight it still today and within our own country.
Imagine the combined strength of the US Navy and Army...we would rule the baltic...the black sea...you name it. We could have fielded 300 divisions if we wanted to. 6 divisions of combat hardened marines with the blood of the japs still dripping from their bayonets...marching through the fulda gap...oh man. Cute rant. America defeated the Axis Powers in WWII. No other entity was as critical as the United States of America. Without it, Germany won. Period.
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To be fair we wailed on the Japs. Absolutely throttled them True enough. But the Japanese fought back. The USMC was seriously depleted after their island hopping campaign during WW2. You say depleted...i say hardened and tested. That much combat experience in the ranks goes a long long way in training recruits and filling the ranks of NCOs. Lets not forget the 25 divisions of Army regulars over there that had been slaughtering the japs
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WWII in europe was decided at the gates of Moscow in the Winter of 1940-41. It was all downhill from there. There was nothing the Gernans could have done once Barbarossa was crushed that could have saved them from their eventual defeat. They were not set up for attrition.
Personally i wish Hitler would have destroyed the soviet barbarian horde completely. Then the US could unleash the dogs of war and destroy the Germans in due time...and we could have.
The world has never seen a more efficient killing machine than the US. It would have been nice to have had communism dealt with in the 40s...instead we fight it still today and within our own country.
Imagine the combined strength of the US Navy and Army...we would rule the baltic...the black sea...you name it. We could have fielded 300 divisions if we wanted to. 6 divisions of combat hardened marines with the blood of the japs still dripping from their bayonets...marching through the fulda gap...oh man. Cute rant. America defeated the Axis Powers in WWII. No other entity was as critical as the United States of America. Without it, Germany won. Period. Russia crushed the germans in front of Moscow, they crushed them in front of stalingrad, they crushed them at kursk, they crushed them in Bagration, and they crushed them in Berlin. Where was mother green when all that was happening? [bleep] around in the desert and getting chewed up in france by conscripted cripples from the east
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Russia crushed the germans in front of Moscow, they crushed them in front of stalingrad, they crushed them at kursk, they crushed them in Bagration, and they crushed them in Berlin.
Where was mother green when all that was happening? [bleep] around in the desert and getting chewed up in france by conscripted cripples from the east Oh, I get it. You're Russian. Right?
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Russia crushed the germans in front of Moscow, they crushed them in front of stalingrad, they crushed them at kursk, they crushed them in Bagration, and they crushed them in Berlin.
Where was mother green when all that was happening? [bleep] around in the desert and getting chewed up in france by conscripted cripples from the east Oh, I get it. You're Russian. Right? I hate russians...with a passion. The only good russian is a dead russian. I wish the Wehrmacht and SS would have killed every one of them...but it didn't happen that way.
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To their credit they did kill about 26.5 million of them...not bad
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I hate russians...with a passion. The only good russian is a dead russian. I wish the Wehrmacht and SS would have killed every one of them...but it didn't happen that way. OK. You seem reluctant to post where you're from so I'll just assume you're from Pennsylvania and make this simple: If America did not enter WWII Germany would have won. Since America did enter WWII, Germany did not win. Anybody that debates this is a fugking idiot.
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WWII in europe was decided at the gates of Moscow in the Winter of 1940-41. It was all downhill from there. There was nothing the Gernans could have done once Barbarossa was crushed that could have saved them from their eventual defeat. They were not set up for attrition.
Personally i wish Hitler would have destroyed the soviet barbarian horde completely. Then the US could unleash the dogs of war and destroy the Germans in due time...and we could have.
The world has never seen a more efficient killing machine than the US. It would have been nice to have had communism dealt with in the 40s...instead we fight it still today and within our own country.
Imagine the combined strength of the US Navy and Army...we would rule the baltic...the black sea...you name it. We could have fielded 300 divisions if we wanted to. 6 divisions of combat hardened marines with the blood of the japs still dripping from their bayonets...marching through the fulda gap...oh man. Cute rant. America defeated the Axis Powers in WWII. No other entity was as critical as the United States of America. Without it, Germany won. Period. Russia crushed the germans in front of Moscow, they crushed them in front of stalingrad, they crushed them at kursk, they crushed them in Bagration, and they crushed them in Berlin. Where was mother green when all that was happening? [bleep] around in the desert and getting chewed up in france by conscripted cripples from the east Which begs the question - how did the Germans get to Moscow, Stalingrad, and Kursk to begin with? Killing Russians. They ran out logistically/poor planning etc - let's not confuse that with Russians being tactically or warfighting superior. Was numbers and weather - not Russian skill.
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Well, this dollar based country whipped the ever living schit out of his.
LOL The war was won on the eastern front long before America joined the fray. The blood that beat Hitler was Russian. If Germany had not committed such an enormous portion of his forces to the Eastern Front it is very very questionable if American and Britain could have ever landed on Normandy.
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Germany lost before we fired a shot in anger at them. Our most important contribution to the war in europe was spam and studebaker trucks. We didn't build T34s, we didn't build PPSH's and we sure as hell didn't provide the man power.
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Well, this dollar based country whipped the ever living schit out of his.
LOL The war was won on the eastern front long before America joined the fray. The blood that beat Hitler was Russian. If Germany had not committed such an enormous portion of his forces to the Eastern Front it is very very questionable if American and Britain could have ever landed on Normandy. Holy schit this country is fugked.
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Which begs the question - how did the Germans get to Moscow, Stalingrad, and Kursk to begin with? Killing Russians. They ran out logistically/poor planning etc - let's not confuse that with Russians being tactically or warfighting superior. Was numbers and weather - not Russian skill. Germany's generals wanted to make a temporary retreat from Russia in advance of the onset of winter, hold till spring, and then renew their advance. Hitler wouldn't hear of it, and essentially ordered them to win or die in a winter war on Russian soil, which the German army was not equipped for. Once he made that decision, Germany was doomed.
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