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I have shot and seen shot quite a few elk with the 6.5mm 140gr and 130gr VLDs.

Those bullets work great on the larger critters.

Bell stacked more than a few elephants with his .256 but solids as he didn't have access to VLDs.

So you're a pants-shiitter?

You make my point.

9.3x62mm.


GR

At what point does a 200gr Partition at 2700 fail, but a whatever from a 9.3x62 succeed?

Methinks you do more shooting your mouth online than you shoot anything offline.

Maybe a cape buffalo? I don't know as I have never shot one..... oh and pay no attention to Garandimal he is a dumbazz

Nice looking blackie.

Think...?

Don't hurt yourself.

Ha!




GR

And again, my point is made.

You buttheads just can't help it.

Ha!




GR

I challenge you to find ONE story where a 30-06 and 200gr Partitions didn't put down a cape buffalo. Just one.

I am sure it would work fine.... after a small bribe was paid to the local game official...

I believe there are countries where you can apply for a special permit that allows you to bypass caliber/energy restrictions, along with those locales that don't have restrictions. I've read a few stories of guys using 30 cals, including a 30-06 with 180gr Partitions, to hunt and shoot cape buffalo. To no one's surprise, it worked just fine.

I was having a conversation one day with a former African PH and he told me he could kill every buffalo with one shot from a 270 , if he had Winchester 140 gr failsafe bullets

Very well said, Sir.
Rex

Would that "former African PH" be Ross Seyfried who said that?

Thought so!

I have hunted with several PHs who had done a bunch of buffalo culling in their careers--and probably already mentioned some of this earlier. But what they said was NOT theory, but experience.

One culled around 500 buffalo--all sizes from calves to mature bulls--at various angles with the original 180-grain Nosler Partitions (those with the "relief" groove) from a .30-06. They were not shot in the head at night, but were killed on day-time drives on a big Rhodesian ranch when domestic cattle were more valuable than buffalo. He never had a problem. Same deal with a buddy of his--though he preferred the original "blunt-nosed" 200 Partition.

When I hunted in Tanzania in 2011, the 17-year-old son of my primary PH had just killed his first bull buffalo with a .300 Winchester Magnum and one 180-grain Barnes TSX. He shot it behind the shoulder, and the bull went the pretty much average 100 yards and keeled over dead.

Another PH on the same hunt had used a 7mm Remington Magnum with whatever "good" bullet he could get to handload to kill a bunch of buffalo

Eileen and I killed a bunch of big game with the 140-grain Fail Safe--and eventually Barnes TSX--with the .270 Winchester. I am sure any similar bullet from the .270 would work on Cape buffalo, partly because one of the animals Eileen killed with the .270 was a mature, 900-pound cow bison in Texas, that required a couple hours of stalking in thick brush, due to having the other cow it hung out with being killed a day or so before. When Eileen finally got a shot, she put a 130 TSX behind the shoulder, and the cow went 40 yards, wobbled a little, and keeled over before Eileen could shoot again--and she's pretty quick. Oh, and the "little" TSX exited.

If the bullet penetrates and expands sufficiently on the game at hand, it will kill pretty quickly with typical heart/lung shots--whether it's a Fail Safe, Barnes X, Nosler Partition or whatever.

John,
That is very interesting and I believe you 100% !
The advancement in bullets is a game changer in my opinion.
Yet every day here we hear about B.C. being the most important part of the bullet....... hmmmm

Never heard of her?

I sure miss Dober. Guy had a mess of class, never had to chest pump and was able to put the money on the table if he said he could.

Yessir, Dober is good people.