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Wife has a2000 Z28 . It has a rag top which we really enjoy. I’m sure it’s quicker than the 66 442 olds I got from bigger brother in the late ‘60s. A kid a few years ahead of me was getting a new GTX . His Dad went shopping with him because he was going to help with the purchase. As they snooped around the lot his Dad poop pooped buying the 440 motor, too big. The kid showed Father a car with that was a little smaller cubes the only hemi 426 ever in our town. The young man lived thru that wild thing and is alive today. That engine had a sound that was awesome on cool still evening racing thru a quarter.


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Originally Posted by DeanAnderson
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I was pretty partial to the 69 Camaro RS Z/28 I had with the DZ aluminum 302 and a 4 speed. Sold it just before my son started to drive, he wasn't happy! Lol! Now I'm running a 2015 Camaro SS with a worked on LS3 6.2L HO aluminum, 6 speed with the 1LE suspension package. The 15 is probably the fastest car of all I've had over the years... 72 Vette 350 LT1, 70 Olds Cutlass 442 455, 70 Chevelle SS 396 375HP, 69 Camaro RS Z/28. Fun stuff!


Sorry, but the 1969 Camaro Z/28, 302 cubic inch engine only came with a "cast iron" block & heads. There was NEVER an aluminum block or heads offered for the 1969 Camaro Z/28.


Maybe I was talking about the intake manifold! Lol! But no, I screwed up! You get to be old enough, you'll screw up too... haha! All good!

I'm sure enjoying my 2015 Camaro SS, things faster than any of the others from back when!

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Coulda been thinking about the all aluminum ZL1 427 offered in 69, COPO, crazy expensive. ~550 hp I believe.



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[quote=DeanAnderson]I was pretty partial to the 69 Camaro RS Z/28 I had with the DZ aluminum 302 and a 4 speed. Sold it just before my son started to drive, he wasn't happy! Lol! Now I'm running a 2015 Camaro SS with a worked on LS3 6.2L HO aluminum, 6 speed with the 1LE suspension package. The 15 is probably the fastest car of all I've had over the years... 72 Vette 350 LT1, 70 Olds Cutlass 442 455, 70 Chevelle SS 396 375HP, 69 Camaro RS Z/28. Fun stuff!


Sorry, but the 1969 Camaro Z/28, 302 cubic inch engine only came with a "cast iron" block & heads. There was NEVER an aluminum block or heads offered for the 1969 Camaro Z/28.

It's amazing I can remember any of this stuff from 50 yrs ago.... lol

I was thinking the same of myself.

Thinking the same. Have googled a few references today & quickly learned many are unreliable. One was that 602, 1967 Z's were produced. But it went on to say the car weighed 3500# I know that to be way off. So I have to rely on that 50 YO memory as well.
Looked for my Jenkins book as well as "How to hotrod the SBC" no luck. But the later had a lot of Smokey Yunich tips plus a list of Chevy heavy duty & performance parts part numbers. Those P/N's tell the story on changes & up grades up till then. Surprising what was available just from the factory.

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Teacher in high school had a 69 Z28 302 with the two 4bbl carburator option which was delivered in the trunk to be dealer installed.Now that's a rare one.

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Originally Posted by sqweeler
Teacher in high school had a 69 Z28 302 with the two 4bbl carburator option which was delivered in the trunk to be dealer installed. Now that's a rare one.

I know those. Decades ago A distant friend of mine started with a bone stock 69 Z that I led him to, & at my urging he decided to keep it that way. It wound up on the front cover of Super Chevy magazine. That gave him the bug & he restored a Phase III Z, they called them. Story is the intake, carbs, cam & factory headers delivered in the trunk of a new Z & to be dealer installed. It does have it's own code on the ID plate on the firewall. They did exist.

I never got to see it as I tried to stay away from temptation, but heard he sold it to generate cash for the restoration of a COPO he acquired. And that undertaking is waaaay above my pay grade.

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Think of what a terror the Boss 351 Cleveland would have been if it had the cam timing the Chevy 302 got. grin


(That would be an increase from 228 to 254 degrees at .050" lift.)

Mathman knows his small blocks:

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I had a 1970 GTO with the 400, Turbo 400 trans and 4:10 gears. Turned it into a RAM IV in the late 80s. Loved that car. I think Pontiac had the best looking musclecars, and my favourite was the 69 with the hideaways:

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Brother in Law has the same car. [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

He has a very nice, fun, car!


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Originally Posted by gunzo
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Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by DeanAnderson
Originally Posted by Japlvr
[quote=DeanAnderson]I was pretty partial to the 69 Camaro RS Z/28 I had with the DZ aluminum 302 and a 4 speed. Sold it just before my son started to drive, he wasn't happy! Lol! Now I'm running a 2015 Camaro SS with a worked on LS3 6.2L HO aluminum, 6 speed with the 1LE suspension package. The 15 is probably the fastest car of all I've had over the years... 72 Vette 350 LT1, 70 Olds Cutlass 442 455, 70 Chevelle SS 396 375HP, 69 Camaro RS Z/28. Fun stuff!


Sorry, but the 1969 Camaro Z/28, 302 cubic inch engine only came with a "cast iron" block & heads. There was NEVER an aluminum block or heads offered for the 1969 Camaro Z/28.

It's amazing I can remember any of this stuff from 50 yrs ago.... lol

I was thinking the same of myself.

Thinking the same. Have googled a few references today & quickly learned many are unreliable. One was that 602, 1967 Z's were produced. But it went on to say the car weighed 3500# I know that to be way off. So I have to rely on that 50 YO memory as well.
Looked for my Jenkins book as well as "How to hotrod the SBC" no luck. But the later had a lot of Smokey Yunich tips plus a list of Chevy heavy duty & performance parts part numbers. Those P/N's tell the story on changes & up grades up till then. Surprising what was available just from the factory.

Bill Jenkins wrote a lot but how to hot rod a small block Chevy was released by Chevrolet. Actually Chevrolet power. My 73 version has all the factory part# for small/big block , build specs for the DZ and ZL1 plus the Cosworth 4 banger. Wealth of history and tips. Bought it new. Ohh and that Cosworth PITA it was, but they did run.



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A Grumpy Jenkins tale...

I was at the 197? 4 or 5 or 6 U.S. Nationals in Indy & walking around the pits. Bill was sitting in the side door of a 2 ton Chevy box truck staring at a big Holley carb in his lap. I watched & he reached inside the truck, grabbed & signed a photo & handed it to me. Never said a word & kind of poked it at me.

Even though I was a big fan, it sort of rubbed me wrong & I told I didn't want it. LOL, he just pitched it over his shoulder & continued the stare at the carb, & still never said a word. Always wondered what was perplexing him. But you could bet the farm he was looking for more power. Knew then they didn't call him Grumpy for nothin.

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Thanks, GF1. Cool old CR tune and a fine upright bass player.
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My father had a Hemi Road Runner 4 spd with 4.10s. He pulled the engine out and sold the car in the 1980s for next to nothing. The guy wrecked it and it ended up in a scrap yard. A friend of Dad's went and bought it from the scrap yard in the early 90s and its still on the track to this day. That's one he wishes he had back. But he's still got the engine and transmission in the barn.

ETA: Dad currently has a '69 Super Bee 440 HP auto and a '68 Coronet 500 with a 318. Neither perfect, but good "driver" grade cars.

Go get that Road Runner back! That thing is worth a small fortune with the original engine back in it.

Nothing would please me more! Current owner has stated it is still NFS several times. It would be great to get it together again someday.


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