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I wouldn't want a 150 SST for that shot although it seems like I read somewhere that the SST has been improved since they first came out. Still not the weight or bullet I'd want for other than a broadside shot.
For plain cup and core a 165 or 180 bullet is better insurance for penetration IMO, but he might have just muffed the shot.
Sometimes a distraction noise like a bleat or whistle works to get a deer to pause and turn around for a better presentation. I've kicked myself more than once for not having the presence of mind to do that.
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He didn't have roundoak as his photographer.
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How fast are white tail?
Thanks
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Faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive.
Able to lead tall buildings in a single bound.
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How fast are white tail?
Thanks I looked it up on wikipedia and sadly, whitetails are now endangered by climate change. So not very fast.
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Just because shot opportunities are limited is not a reason take a questionable shot. Maybe on one already wounded as last ditch effort to put it down.Even at that,you go for the base of the tail, not the hole.
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Amen ^^^^^^
What I believe is if they are able to run 50 to 60 miles an hour.
And if you hit them in a spot that causes bleed out.
They should only be able to make 2 to 3 hundred yards max. They usually die in under 5 seconds ( especially arrows through the center of lung field).
If u are tracking one past that distance and haven’t accounted for time for them to expire ( at least an hour). U might wanna back out and allow ample time.
When in doubt
Back out
Gut shots can take several hours before they expire
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biggest horned whitetail buck i ever shot was with a Texas heart shot at 30 feet running with my 257 Weatherby mag. and a 100 gr. Nosler Partition went right down that was the only shot i had . Partitions are very good bullets and at 3800 FPS never have had any problems killing whitetail bucks always bang flops as it seems with these Hammer bullets so far too ? if i only have a Texas heart shot on a big buck with my rifle i use and good bullets with my handloads i will take shot within 200 yards. the guy made two mistakes the bullets he was using and not waiting long enough for this buck to bleed out and die , i also prefer a bigger cartridge rifle when i buck hunt whitetails these bigger bucks are tough to kill sometimes , i prefer to knock a buck down.
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If he was hunting the private property I hunt(CWMU in Utah) he would have been done. Our long-standing gentleman's agreement is that if you draw blood you are done even if the animal is not recovered. Period. I think it's a good rule.
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When I was young, I put a 12 gauge slug straight into the tailpipe of a big buck that was running away full speed at nearly 100 yards distant. The buck dropped instantly. All luck, no skill involved. So, hypocritically, I will say that shooting a deer in the rear is a poor decision and no buck is big enough to repeat my mistake. Also, I wouldn’t do it with an SST.
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Simply wait for a better shot or another day.
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What he did wrong was take a poor shot at best. Wait for a better shot or pass. Not trying to be a smart-azz.
I found a still alive, rump shot buck, a couple years ago when out Christmas tree hunting. Looked like it happened a day or so before. Rump was a mess and the buck could hardly go anymore, but wasn't actively bleeding. No way it was going to survive. I walked back and got a rifle and finished it off.
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I did it once with a .45 cal 300gr SST muzzleloader bullet @40 yards...dumped him. Found the bullet in his white patch skin of the neck.(3’ penetration) I’ll never do that again however use enough gun and it works well.
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I’ve made some piss poor shots in my time I will admit and lost a few to good shots the older I get the more I wait.
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The thing with butthole shots is you better hit it. Low & you clip the nuts & high it’s likely a miss. Might have castrated the poor fella - calves quit bleeding after a while, imagine deer are similar. Who knows - just tossing my .02.
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yeah. The older you get, the more we have to wait on you, too.....
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Me thinks frank zappa
Ram it
Ram it up the poop chute
Might be fitting here
Or not.
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White-tailed deer will generally top out in the 35-40 mph range. Some might go a bit fast under stress, but they aren't going to hit 60 mph. Ever. The American Pronghorn is the second fastest land animal in the world, second only to the cheetah. Pronghorns top out at 60 mph. When I was a kid in the middle of South Dakota some of the guys we hunted with ran what was known as "the iron pony show" - chasing deer with pickups. I remember they could catch a whitetail. The same guys tried to cut off a band of antelope from crossing the county line into safety because it was out of the hunting zone. We didn't gain an inch on those goats flying across the prairie of Hyde County, SD in a pickup.
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Thanks
This in fact makes me believe that if they go more than 200 yards…….
Back out
Give them time to expire
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Me thinks frank zappa
Ram it
Ram it up the poop chute
Might be fitting here
Or not. LOL, I'd go with "or not."
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