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Why would they not swim ? They can. But probably crossed bridges in preference. They are opportunists and establish themselves wherever.

They weren't "native to Alaska" either, but apparently followed the Alcan up after it's construction. Or so I've been told.

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Originally Posted by DollarShort
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They are native to Texas, Colorado etc. How did we get them here in N. Carolina, and Georgia? I can see them going east through Louisiana, to Baton Rouge. At that point, did they swim the Mississippi, or what?
Why would they swim?


Are they gonna cross the I 10 bridge? That mother****r is 2 miles long!
I ran that bridge over 650 times in the big rig, but I never saw any coyotes on it.

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Someone built bridges across the rivers, simonkenton7, that's how the rest of the country gets armadillos, too.
When I grew up in N/C Missouri, armadillos were something they had in Texas, and maybe Oklahoma, but never as far north as we were. Now I see dead armadillos every time I drive out to Missouri to visit family. Every time.


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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
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They are native to Texas, Colorado etc. How did we get them here in N. Carolina, and Georgia? I can see them going east through Louisiana, to Baton Rouge. At that point, did they swim the Mississippi, or what?
Why would they swim?


Are they gonna cross the I 10 bridge? That mother****r is 2 miles long!
I ran that bridge over 650 times in the big rig, but I never saw any coyotes on it.
Maybe. Maybe a railroad bridge.

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Armadillos can cross a small creek, by holding their breath and walking across on the bottom of the creek. Interesting little guys.
I don't think that would work on the Mississippi at Baton Rouge.

By the way, driving out west in Texas, good God did I see lots of dead armadillos on the interstates. Lots of dead coyotes too.

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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
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They are native to Texas, Colorado etc. How did we get them here in N. Carolina, and Georgia? I can see them going east through Louisiana, to Baton Rouge. At that point, did they swim the Mississippi, or what?
Why would they swim?


Are they gonna cross the I 10 bridge? That mother****r is 2 miles long!
I ran that bridge over 650 times in the big rig, but I never saw any coyotes on it.

Were you there 24/7/365 over decades? Is that the only bridge? How long does it take a coyote to trot 2 miles - 20 minutes? Less? Not to mention if caught on the bridge and they go into streak mode. What makes you think they didn't establish from farther north, after crossing the Miss? Perhaps in winter, on ice? This is of course speculative- we will never know.

I've seen videos of mt lion and leopards crossing bridgesinto residential areas, in the dead of night, and leaving again, and no one knew until they were caught on night cameras. You think coyotes are not as adventuresomeas these putatively more shy cats?

Did some quick research:

The coyote is a newcomer to Alaska. Coyotes were first noted in the state shortly after the turn of the 20th century. Populations were first reported on the mainland of Southeast Alaska and then slowly expanded northward into the upper Tanana Valley from which they radiated in all directions.

There are some serious mountain ranges and rivers (with and without bridges to cross) on this dispersion view. Working their way north along the Alcan to populate Interior by the 60/70's is speculatively more likely. IMO.

DNA study showed the Kenai Penninsula was initally repopulated by wolves from a single pregnant female. Think coyotes can't do the same?

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Damn things are in eastern nc .I can step outside at night and here them calling most winter nights,my daughter lives in Cary and told me she saw one while hiking around the lake at the apartment complex last week


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(Alaska) Department biologists do not keep track of coyote numbers, but Fairbanks-area trapper Randy Zarnke said coyotes began showing up on his trapline trails three or four years ago.

"Now, all I have left is coyotes," he said. "Not sure if they ate all the other fur-bearers or just chased them away."

Coyote pelts fetch less money than marten or lynx, Zarnke said, so he does not try to trap them. He'd like to remove them from his trapping grounds because they've eaten foxes from his snares in each of the last three seasons. But he finds coyotes difficult to trap.

"I used to think foxes were smart until I ran into wolves," he said. "Then, I thought wolves were smart until I ran into coyotes."

The adaptable creatures have been among the first large animals back into areas people have settled, wrote Donald Cornelius in Fish and Game's Wildlife Notebook Series entry on the coyote.

"The elimination or reduction of wolves from many areas of North America, coupled with land and clearing activities, have contributed to this range extension," he wrote.

Based on reports from more than 100 years ago, biologists figure coyotes were first on the mainland of Southeast Alaska and then migrated northward into the upper Tanana Valley. From here, they spread all over Alaska, with the highest numbers on the Kenai Peninsula and in the Matanuska, Susitna and Copper River valleys. Few people have reported seeing coyotes north of the Yukon River.

In areas without wolves, which eat coyotes and keep their numbers down, the dog-like creatures with pointy ears and snouts are just about everywhere. People have seen coyotes in all five boroughs of New York City, and in Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle and every major city in North America. Maybe it shouldn't be surprising we share our vast acreage with them.

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The only two things left on earth at the end of time will be a coyote and a mesquite tree.


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Originally Posted by tikkanut
State sponsored $25/head bounty here

wake up dumm azz newsome



https://ktla.com/news/local-news/coyote-attacks-toddler-in-woodland-hills/
the state bounty is $50. It’s stupid and mainly to appease don peay and the SFW. Coyotes get blamed for way more than they do. A few years ago there was an attack at the kennecott guard shack. Only 5 miles from me. Look that up tikka,
Kennecott coyote attack

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Originally Posted by tikkanut
Fuggin idiot tree huggin' liberals
We kill them yr.round here in texas,there is no season,no bounty.We could use one on both these vermin.


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Quoted from. Above.
When those Dipschitts pretty much killed fur trapping by driving the prices down to rock bottom in the 80’s,
it allowed a population explosion of Coyotes that will never be contained or controlled again.

This is partially true, but the expansion of leased deer hunting and the “dont allow other hunting” and the expansion of the deer herd helped too

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Fox hunters were importing them from Texas decades ago to give their hounds something else to chase. Coyotes tended to displace the red foxes that were here. Probably happened in other states too. That might explain the crossing of the Mississippi River.


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Should be a bounty on Coyotes everywhere, but the Tree Huggers and PETA would throw a fit.

When those Dipschitts pretty much killed fur trapping by driving the prices down to rock bottom in the 80’s,
it allowed a population explosion of Coyotes that will never be contained or controlled again.

Coyotes are probably the most adaptive predators in North America. They survive and thrive in the big cities today like LA and even NYC.

Unfortunately, it never seems to happen to a tree huggers kids. 😜


It's done the same for racoons. We have way too many of them in my neck of the woods.

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Originally Posted by tikkanut
State sponsored $25/head bounty here

wake up dumm azz newsome



https://ktla.com/news/local-news/coyote-attacks-toddler-in-woodland-hills/

Damn I wish they had it here as I would have racked up a pile of cash. Locally we had a annual coyote contest partially funded by OHA the other part by a local gun shop. Your name went in the hat once per coyote tail turned in and I put a employee’s name in for each tail until I had grandkids. The oldest granddaughter won a 22-250 Four years ago which the shop owner allowed me to swap for a .223 instead.

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Originally Posted by DollarShort
Prolly get arrested if they shot it.

Think I need a crossbow.
This... Not allowed to defend yourself from man or beast in these parts.


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