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I worked on hydrogen vechicals over 20 + years ago for GM.....biggest problem was the insulated fuel cell it was very large all so getting the fuel was before it time....GM ran out of money and I never did any more work on them....I have been retired for over 15 years.....
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Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
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Hell no!
What about the fishes? They need the water.
I want my energy to be foreign, expensive, dirty, and require billions of dollars in govt money every quarter!
I am MAGA.
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With all those water droplets being dumped by hydrogen cars maybe one should invest in windshield wipers.  I like the thought of hydrogen power over electric. Both will take time to get power grid or fuel stations ready for potential demand. I would not get rid of diesel or gas cars though. The more diversified the better.
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Do they plan on naming it "Hindenburg"?
Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!
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So, not the world's first hydrogen-powered car.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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I didn't seen in the article whether they used liquid H or compressed H. Liquid will give a longer range but it requires heavily insulated tanks. Compressed has it's problems, too. It's stored at about 10k psi, 5x the pressure of an O2 bottle. The weight and size of the tanks has been a major hindrance in the development of H2 vehicles.
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Where do you haul the groceries?
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“When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty”
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version)
"And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
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Where do you haul the groceries? Same place you would in your Maserati.
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Where do you haul the groceries? No problem. You can get $200 worth of groceries in a fanny pack.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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If you can afford to buy the car you can afford to have your groceries delivered to your front door.
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Hydrogen is essentially free. Not in my world.
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Been wondering when these would appear.
Back before I retired, so over 12 years ago, my company installed a hydrogen-powered generator as a backup, or possibly primary (can’t remember) power source for one of our new central offices in NJ. Telephone equipment runs almost entirely off huge lead-acid cells strung together in series, but those are charged by big rectifiers that run off AC from the power company, with generator backup. That office was the only one I know of, so I presume the setup was either really expensive or they simply didn’t want to replace existing systems that still worked.
What ya wanna bet they’ll discover that the water left on the road attracts the endangered San Bernardino Spotted Hop Toad to their doom on the roadways, so it’ll be banned, in CA anyway. They will only Ban the Car after Newscum Pays 1 Billion dollars in Political Pay Offs for an Environmental Study on the effects of the water in the air. They will find that we can not have all that water being released into the air because it will change the Balance of nature some how.
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I've long thought Hydrogen was the future not this electric schit.
I also think small hydrogen power plants for the home are the future too.
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Car was OK,chick looked edible.
Its all right to be white!!
Stupidity left unattended will run rampant
Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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I’m wondering if the left is going to accept this technology and let it happen?
Ol’ All Gore and friends have been making boatloads of money on predictions
of a world flooded by rising seas…. Wont using water lessen that threat and steal the thunder?
Osky Not only that, but how are Brandon and Nancy going to make millions more if they can’t invest in lithium to be mined by the Chinese for EV’s?
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I can imagine any major freeway in the nation at 10 degrees or minus 15 and then add 1000 cars per hour dripping water on the road.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Supposing "they" get this into practical vehicles, what are the results in winter? Water blown out all over the highways, to freeze; clouds of frost in northern cities; or heated tanks to catch the exhaust water? Serious questions, not meaning to be a doom & gloom guy.
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Where's the hydrogen coming from? It costs more in energy to extract hydrogen from water than what can be garnered from the hydrogen. The cheapest route is using natural gas, but it's a very dirty process. To get 1 ton of hydrogen about 10 tons of CO2 are given off. There really isn't a free lunch.
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