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I have a Springer that had a beautiful coat. Now has some funky hair as a result. All in all, I would say do it.

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No getting around it, male dogs make better pets and companions if they are neutered. When intact, the testosterone drives them nutty.

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Originally Posted by Pappy348
One of the reasons I bought a male Lab some years ago was because my Previous was a bit uncomfortable about staying alone while I was working nights. We kept him intact to preserve his “edge” as a protector, not that Labs are generally known for being great security dogs. He was never allowed to roam and and never had “issue”, nor gave us any trouble by being aggressive, ever. He’s long gone, as is the Previous.

Once while I was walking him at the local ballfield, a lady came over to pet him. She was pleasant enough, but then asked me in a very annoying tone, “And WHY hasn’t he been neutered?”, like it was any of her fugging business. I replied, “He and I discussed this and he said that if I let him keep his testicles, he’d let me keep mine”.
Don't you hate that [bleep]? Vets are now indoctrinated to constantly push for it, too.

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After neutering our puggle our vet recommended putting him on half rations. I modified this by giving him full ration in the morning and half ration in the evening when he's be less active than during the day. He maintained a healthy weight with no gain thereafter with no ill effects.

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Typical Leftist BS. They think they know everything, and that everyone should do their bidding.

My dog had quite a set of doodads, and I always found it funny when strangers would assume he was a female.

“Take another look, Lady!”


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Originally Posted by ribka
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My daughter got an intact 18 month old male Corgi that has not been neutered. We don't plan to breed it. Should we have him neutered? Pros/cons?

I seem to recall reading somewhere in the past that neutering a male dog can really mess with their emotional health. I damn sure know it would mess MINE up! 😄

It messes up their hormones.

what hormones does it affect? specifically after 18 months?

what about testicular cancer?

Growth hormones for one.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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My daughter got an intact 18 month old male Corgi that has not been neutered. We don't plan to breed it. Should we have him neutered? Pros/cons?

I seem to recall reading somewhere in the past that neutering a male dog can really mess with their emotional health. I damn sure know it would mess MINE up! 😄

It messes up their hormones.

what hormones does it affect? specifically after 18 months?

what about testicular cancer?

Growth hormones for one.


so what is the specific result? Why do all vets and very experienced breeders( the ones I've dealt with) suggest neutering or spaying after maturing?

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All the vets and experienced breeders you have dealt with? That doesn't mean they are right. I have had a lot of dogs over a 60 year span, mostly males and I have never had a dog develop testicular cancer.

I know of a very well known Bull Mastiff breeder that has a lifetime warranty on his dogs. He is very specific on what to feed them, exercise regimens etc etc. He will void the warranty if they are spayed or neutered. He recommends if it has to be done to do it after they are fully mature which takes a Mastiff 3 1/2 years or so.

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I’ve neutered a bunch and have had the vet neuter some to and haven’t had anything but positive results.

Years ago my grandpa had fox hounds along with several others and they would all get together and hunt. One day my grandpa and uncle was over at another fox hunters house and they were talking dogs and my grandpa asked what about this one dog and the guy said that was another guys hound that lived a couple miles away and he was tired of it hanging around there and he told my grandpa and uncle he would cut it if they would hold it so they held it for the guy and this guy neuters the dog but doesn’t do it right and just cuts the whole bag off slick. They let go of the dog and it takes off for home. The next Saturday my uncle and grandpa was over at the cut dogs owners house and they was talking hounds and they ask about this particular dog that they helped cut the week before and the guy said I don’t know what’s wrong with that dog all he wants to do is lay around and lick his nuts. They couldn’t hardly keep from laughing, they said that dog took a couple months to heal up but went back to running and was just as good of a dog as he was before his whole bag got cut off!!!

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Originally Posted by ribka
[quote=Oldelkhunter][quote=ribka][quote=Oldelkhunter][quote=Triggernosis]


so what is the specific result? Why do all vets and very experienced breeders( the ones I've dealt with) suggest neutering or spaying after maturing?

I don’t know why the vets say spay or neuter but I know why the experienced breeders want you to, it’s because they don’t want the competition. Most want to sell you a registered dog but won’t let you have the papers with it because you will want to raise a litter of pups down the road and cut in on their completion.

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I don’t even understand why this is a conversation these days. Same as the fuqqing idiots who dump litters of kittens at farms, assuming the farmer wants them. Most get shot.

AFA breeders and competition, here in Canada it’s illegal for a breeder to sell a dog as “purebred” if they don’t supply the papers. Federal law. I wouldn’t be surprised that it’s the same in the US.

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A lot of vets will push for spaying and neutering at to young of an age IMO. I think they do it partly for the money and partially to prevent unwanted kittens and puppies due to someone waiting until a more appropriate age to have it done and the animal reproducing. Some dogs, especially bigger breeds IMO spayed/neutered at the very young ages some vets recommend don’t seem to fully develop.

It’s worth having a fully adult dog neutered to avoid the humping and tendency to stray IMO.

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Not. I've had lots of dogs. The boys keeping their nuts has NEVER been a problem.


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Ask the dog.


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lol


I know the whpg breeders I know want tp protect their genetics of the breed and don't want a bunch of back yard goobers destroying the breed and the genetics to make a buck

both my whpg have lifetime guarantees too breeder suggested getting fixed if not breeding after they matured if I did not breed them and he has been breeding over this breed over 40 years. ill take his word and my vet who breeds hunting dogs



Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
All the vets and experienced breeders you have dealt with? That doesn't mean they are right. I have had a lot of dogs over a 60 year span, mostly males and I have never had a dog develop testicular cancer.

I know of a very well known Bull Mastiff breeder that has a lifetime warranty on his dogs. He is very specific on what to feed them, exercise regimens etc etc. He will void the warranty if they are spayed or neutered. He recommends if it has to be done to do it after they are fully mature which takes a Mastiff 3 1/2 years or so.

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[quote=Oldelkhunter][quote=ribka][quote=Oldelkhunter][quote=Triggernosis]


so what is the specific result? Why do all vets and very experienced breeders( the ones I've dealt with) suggest neutering or spaying after maturing?

I don’t know why the vets say spay or neuter but I know why the experienced breeders want you to, it’s because they don’t want the competition. Most want to sell you a registered dog but won’t let you have the papers with it because you will want to raise a litter of pups down the road and cut in on their completion.

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I would.

I don't need a set of nuts on my dog to make me a man.
Some, seem to!

Didn't want our Boxer neutered, hoped to let him enjoy making us a few $$.
One day, he decided to mark my wife as "HIS".

Pissed right on her!😂😂😂😂😂

She took it ok.

Couple days later she was taking clothes off the line and folding them.
He ran up and pissed in the basket!

She took the clothes back to the washer and called the vet.

He wouldn't cut a Boxer until it was a year.
Dillon got cut at 13 months.
A big Boxer, he never got as muscular as he could have.
70# now, but built more like a female.

My manhood isn't dependant on my dog, so that's no big deal.
He is 11 and in great shape, some gray and not as peppy, but otherwise
no different than 5 years ago.

Losing his nuts hasn't hurt him at all.


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I’ve had two male dogs, an old English sheepdog and a little rat terrier/chihuahua mutt, neither were neutered, no problems, both lived 13+ years.

One of my present mutts, an adopted stray, still has his set. Two years now and no problems with him either. He does try to hump every dog of either persuasion that will hold still long enough in the dog park but hey, what happens in the dog park stays in the dog park.

We don’t go to those places much anyway.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Don't you hate that [bleep]? Vets are now indoctrinated to constantly push for it, too.


Interestingly enough our vet advised us to wait 18-24 months before we neutered our Lab. Jaeger is 4 now and our vet still hasn’t pushed to have him neutered. Never says a word other than how healthy is.

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Originally Posted by Triggernosis
My daughter got an intact 18 month old male Corgi that has not been neutered. We don't plan to breed it. Should we have him neutered? Pros/cons?

I seem to recall reading somewhere in the past that neutering a male dog can really mess with their emotional health. I damn sure know it would mess MINE up! 😄

Try shooting it first.

But if that doesn’t work, yeah. Have it neutered.


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I’m a “no” vote.

All my dogs are intact. In my breed, neutering comes with serious health issues, primarily weight gain and lack of energy/drive, which in turn results in numerous health problems and shortened life spans. Many females develop spay related incontinence.

Once neutered, the dog’s coat loses its ability to self clean and becomes much longer as well, resulting in a smelly, greasy long haired dog that needs frequent bathing.

I understand many people won’t deal with an intact dog. Nevertheless, if the question is “what’s best for the dog”, in my opinion that is to be kept intact.


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