I started to come down with a cold/flu on Sunday and got tested on Monday - results came back positive so I'm in isolation for a week. Working from home anyway and I'll start back "at work" tomorrow - had Monday and Tuesday off because I was feeling sick, but mild symptoms.
For me it's been like a cold but with more headache and no runny nose. A bit of fatigue to start with but that only lasted a day. The last two nights when I've gone to bed I've been fully congested (with what? Nose has not been runny) and haven't been able to breathe through my nose but wake up in the morning and all is clear again. Even though I woke up this morning without a headache and feeling the best I have been for the past few days, my sense of smell/taste is completely gone - normally the bedroom smells like farts in the morning.
I am double vaxed BTW. The second shot gave me headaches similar to the covid and extra aches than covid but only lasted a day, and no congestion or loss of smell.
double vaxed lmao. Not so smart huh
I've had a booster since then too. Thinking about when best to get the next one.
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.
That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.
You need to look at the overall picture, not just at the bits and pieces that suit your beliefs.
Yes, covid vaccines have their issues. Ivermectin has its issues. Catching the virus has its issues, so it becomes a cost to benefit ratio.
That is a very important point. And when you take a cohort like, say, people under about 70 who don't suffer certain comorbidities, the risk for them of death or serious illness from Covid was established very early on to be vanishingly small. That being the case, the absolute risk reduction for them from mRNA injections was, even when it was believed that they were effective, even smaller. At the same time, the evidence was there from Pfizer's earliest trials, if anyone had cared to look, that the risk inherent to injection was non-zero. Indeed in Pfizer's initial testing more died in the test arm (those injected) than in the control arm.
Since then the evidence is that efficacy was never as high as what was promised, and indeed wanes fast, even to negative against infection. Read the NSW data on hospitalisation and deaths and you'll see the unvaccinated are underrepresented, taking into account the percentage of the population in that category. At the same time evidence has been mounting for many months of the risks, including damage to the heart, and to women's reproductive systems. Ask yourself why we are seeing the dramatic increases in excess mortality figures and significantly decreased live births around the world.
I don't support compulsory vaccination. It's up to adults based on information from reliable sources, and not just what supports a favoured belief.
Information that should include the efficacy of drugs like ivermectin;
''Misinformation about ivermectin
Some people, including podcaster Joe Rogan, have self-treated their coronavirus infections with ivermectin and spread misinformation that it’s effective.
The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have needed urgent medical attention or hospitalization after experimenting with the drug at home.
The drug is known to cause adverse reactions in humans — like headache, nausea, and even seizures — and the current evidence does not support the use of ivermectin outside of clinical trials.
“There is a due process to assess therapeutics,” said Dr. Jorge Salinas, an infectious diseases doctor at Stanford University. “At this moment, there is not enough clinical evidence to support the routine use of ivermectin.”
''Even one of the drug’s main manufacturers, Merck, said in a Feb. 4 statement that there’s “no meaningful evidence” to suggest ivermectin works to treat or prevent COVID, and that there’s been “a concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.”
However, people have become so convinced that ivermectin is a cheap and readily available “cure” for COVID, they continue to take it against all medical advice and common sense.''
It seems you still can't see the connection between propaganda and the government talking points. Who funds this healthline? Do they make any money off of the Vaccines? Ivermectin was so good for me I was fine in 4 days. No loss of smell either. But you go ahead and be a test monkey. Why anyone would trust any government with their health is beyond me to include the lunatics that run Australia, Canada, the US or any of the media shrilly squealing the govt talking points. I mean how long can you continue to be made fools of? I guess you have to figure in the quality of the fool.
Look in the mirror before accusing others of being fools.
You are spruiking your own beliefs regardless of evidence.
You assume some grand conspiracy when it's most likely a case of acting in haste, making mistakes and ongoing research....and yes, probably an element of those in positions of power covering their arses.
It's likely that neither ivermectin or the vaccines are fully what they are cracked up to be.
F u c k ing Australians. You dumb asses will believe anything
Americans of course know everything there is to know, being perfect and all, living in an ideal society, good governance, peace and joy, god and country. Gentlemen, one and all.
Good for you, Butch, keep living in your fantasy world.
And American Doctors, nurses are testifying this week about all of the injuries and health concerns they are seeing because of the untested vax the past year
The booster has had zero research and was never approved
Amazing how dumb and brain washed people are now.
Eat this dog schit goober it will cure cancer and Covid.
Good point but 9mm is a brain washed clueless idiot. Really refreshing to see good men are still Australia. I trained years ago in the military with Aussie troops. They were bad asss. alpha males. Sad to see Australia being destroyed by cowardly weak men keep up the good fight
Originally Posted by dan_oz
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
You can lead a Karen to facts but they'll go the horse paste everytime.
You ought to make a trip down here and see for yourself what a dipshit you are making out yourself to be. Bring your horse paste suppositories with you.
You speak dismissively of "horse paste", apparently not realising that the "horse paste" line was deliberate disinformation, designed by the pharmaceutical industry to protect their profits from mRNA injectables. Ivermectin has a history of decades of use in humans - billions of doses administered - and was well-known for its broad-spectrum antiviral efficacy long before Covid came along.
Since then there have been literally dozens of papers published showing its efficacy against Covid, in the face of a concerted disinformation campaign.
Here's a good summary, both of the evidence for Covid and how big pharma - companies with terrible records for misleading and deceptive conduct which have led to some of the largest fines in history - sought to convince people that it was nothing more than horse paste, so they could make more money from them:
I'm gonna call bullshit on your military service - you're too much of a disrespectfull fuckwit. I think your "service" is just part of your homo-erotic fantasies.
You should seek the help of a Mayo clinic level shrink.
You need to look at the overall picture, not just at the bits and pieces that suit your beliefs.
Yes, covid vaccines have their issues. Ivermectin has its issues. Catching the virus has its issues, so it becomes a cost to benefit ratio.
list all of the issues of ivermectin as it has been used the past 40 plus years to treat viral diseases on tens of millions of people. It has been described as a miracle drug
Go take a 6th grade science class you clueless lying idiot
grade school children in American are not even allowed to use wiki as a reference because of all of the inaccuracies
You just a pathological old cowardly mincing queen like 9mm afraid of your own shadow
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by dan_oz
There’s been a good deal more in the scientific papers to show how widespread and persistent the spike protein is in blood and organs after inoculation
of course but the anti science Covid vax cult cant even understand basic science
You pick and choose whatever suits your beliefs.
Science is a work in progress.
Many papers are submitted, some fail to establish their conclusions, others are withdrawn because they are flawed.
''In November 2021 the Journal of Intensive Care Medicine retracted a paper written by Kory, Paul E. Marik, and others. The retraction was triggered when it was found the paper misreported the mortality figures of people treated for COVID-19 with the FLCCC's "MATH+" protocol, falsely making it appear to be an effective treatment.[18][19]
In February 2022, the American Journal of Therapeutics issued an expression of concern against a 2021 systematic review of which Kory had been lead author. The notice said there were suspicions about the integrity of the underlying data on which the paper depended to show that ivermectin was a viable treatment for COVID-19.[20][21]
By July 2022, Kory had begun endorsing misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines, downplaying the COVID-19 vaccines' effectiveness and spreading conspiracy theories about their safety and unreported fatalities. Kory claimed on a conservative podcast that COVID-19 vaccines "are not safe or effective", despite acknowledging that "There's just tons of papers in journals showing that the vaccines are safe and effective."[22]
" In the latest report on ivermectin, researchers said dangerous side effects from taking ivermectin can include confusion, loss of control over body movement ("ataxia"), weakness, low blood pressure, seizures, gastrointestinal distress, dizziness, vision symptoms or rash. The side effects can be triggered by taking too much of the drug or having it interact with other medications, they noted.
"It's very easy to give yourself too much. Most people who develop symptoms probably took too much, but we did have several people who were taking it for days and weeks and then developed toxicity," said lead researcher Dr. Robert Hendrickson. He is associate medical director of the Oregon Poison Center and a professor of emergency medicine at Oregon Health and Science University, in Portland.
"It's an unusual medication in that it has a lot of interactions, so even if you're taking the normal dose prescribed for other disorders, you can get sick because of interactions with other medications," he explained. "It's usually a medication we're fairly careful with."
Hendrickson explained that ivermectin can accumulate in the brain. "That's where most of the toxicity is — you get off balance, you get confused and feel weak — that's where most of the interactions are," he said.
Early studies in cell cultures seemed to indicate that ivermectin could prevent COVID-19 from entering cells, but that has not panned out in humans, Hendrickson said.
Yet, the drug continues to be touted by those who oppose COVID-19 vaccines, even though no proof exists that it is effective in preventing or treating COVID-19, he said.
For the study, Hendrickson's team reviewed ivermectin-related calls to the Oregon Poison Center in August. In all, 21 people reported side effects after taking the drug.
Most of the reports came from people over 60 years of age. Eleven of the reports were from people who took ivermectin to prevent COVID-19. The other 10 took the drug to treat COVID-19 symptoms.
Among those taking ivermectin, three had a prescription from a doctor or veterinarian, and 17 purchased veterinary versions of the drug. Where the others got the drug isn't known."
You need to look at the overall picture, not just at the bits and pieces that suit your beliefs.
Yes, covid vaccines have their issues. Ivermectin has its issues. Catching the virus has its issues, so it becomes a cost to benefit ratio.
list all of the issues of ivermectin as it has been used the past 40 plus years to treat viral diseases on tens of millions of people. It has been described as a miracle drug
Go take a 6th grade science class you clueless lying idiot
You guys are doing great, you're way better than Peru:
If you lot love your horse paste, then go for it. If that's what they teach you in 6th grade over there - pity it was so sub-standard and you weren't able to progress further. I hear it’s worth dieing for. Don't let facts get in the way - fear and superstition seems way too difficult to overcome. Stupidity can't be fixed however but don't let that stop you tapping away at the keyboard - it's probably therapeutic for you if nothing else.
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.
That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.
You need to look at the overall picture, not just at the bits and pieces that suit your beliefs.
Yes, covid vaccines have their issues. Ivermectin has its issues. Catching the virus has its issues, so it becomes a cost to benefit ratio.
list all of the issues of ivermectin as it has been used the past 40 plus years to treat viral diseases on tens of millions of people. It has been described as a miracle drug
Go take a 6th grade science class you clueless lying idiot
Wow, you are an angry little man. Did you get a spanking?
Did you read the article? Which is fair and balanced.
Again;
''Misinformation about ivermectin
Some people, including podcaster Joe Rogan, have self-treated their coronavirus infections with ivermectin and spread misinformation that it’s effective.
The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have needed urgent medical attention or hospitalization after experimenting with the drug at home.
The drug is known to cause adverse reactions in humans — like headache, nausea, and even seizures — and the current evidence does not support the use of ivermectin outside of clinical trials.
“There is a due process to assess therapeutics,” said Dr. Jorge Salinas, an infectious diseases doctor at Stanford University. “At this moment, there is not enough clinical evidence to support the routine use of ivermectin.”
''Even one of the drug’s main manufacturers, Merck, said in a Feb. 4 statement that there’s “no meaningful evidence” to suggest ivermectin works to treat or prevent COVID, and that there’s been “a concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.”
However, people have become so convinced that ivermectin is a cheap and readily available “cure” for COVID, they continue to take it against all medical advice and common sense.''
You need to look at the overall picture, not just at the bits and pieces that suit your beliefs.
Yes, covid vaccines have their issues. Ivermectin has its issues. Catching the virus has its issues, so it becomes a cost to benefit ratio.
list all of the issues of ivermectin as it has been used the past 40 plus years to treat viral diseases on tens of millions of people. It has been described as a miracle drug
Go take a 6th grade science class you clueless lying idiot
You guys are doing great, you're way better than Peru:
If you lot love your horse paste, then go for it. If that's what they teach you in 6th grade over there - pity it was so sub-standard and you weren't able to progress further. I hear it’s worth dieing for. Don't let facts get in the way - fear and superstition seems way too difficult to overcome. Stupidity can't be fixed however but don't let that stop you tapping away at the keyboard - it's probably therapeutic for you if nothing else.
I started to come down with a cold/flu on Sunday and got tested on Monday - results came back positive so I'm in isolation for a week. Working from home anyway and I'll start back "at work" tomorrow - had Monday and Tuesday off because I was feeling sick, but mild symptoms.
For me it's been like a cold but with more headache and no runny nose. A bit of fatigue to start with but that only lasted a day. The last two nights when I've gone to bed I've been fully congested (with what? Nose has not been runny) and haven't been able to breathe through my nose but wake up in the morning and all is clear again. Even though I woke up this morning without a headache and feeling the best I have been for the past few days, my sense of smell/taste is completely gone - normally the bedroom smells like farts in the morning.
I am double vaxed BTW. The second shot gave me headaches similar to the covid and extra aches than covid but only lasted a day, and no congestion or loss of smell.
double vaxed lmao. Not so smart huh
I've had a booster since then too. Thinking about when best to get the next one.
You need to look at the overall picture, not just at the bits and pieces that suit your beliefs.
Yes, covid vaccines have their issues. Ivermectin has its issues. Catching the virus has its issues, so it becomes a cost to benefit ratio.
list all of the issues of ivermectin as it has been used the past 40 plus years to treat viral diseases on tens of millions of people. It has been described as a miracle drug
Go take a 6th grade science class you clueless lying idiot
You guys are doing great, you're way better than Peru:
If you lot love your horse paste, then go for it. If that's what they teach you in 6th grade over there - pity it was so sub-standard and you weren't able to progress further. I hear it’s worth dieing for. Don't let facts get in the way - fear and superstition seems way too difficult to overcome. Stupidity can't be fixed however but don't let that stop you tapping away at the keyboard - it's probably therapeutic for you if nothing else.
You need to look at the overall picture, not just at the bits and pieces that suit your beliefs.
Yes, covid vaccines have their issues. Ivermectin has its issues. Catching the virus has its issues, so it becomes a cost to benefit ratio.
list all of the issues of ivermectin as it has been used the past 40 plus years to treat viral diseases on tens of millions of people. It has been described as a miracle drug
Go take a 6th grade science class you clueless lying idiot
Wow, you are an angry little man. Did you get a spanking?
Did you read the article? Which is fair and balanced.
Again;
''Misinformation about ivermectin
Some people, including podcaster Joe Rogan, have self-treated their coronavirus infections with ivermectin and spread misinformation that it’s effective.
The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have needed urgent medical attention or hospitalization after experimenting with the drug at home.
The drug is known to cause adverse reactions in humans — like headache, nausea, and even seizures — and the current evidence does not support the use of ivermectin outside of clinical trials.
“There is a due process to assess therapeutics,” said Dr. Jorge Salinas, an infectious diseases doctor at Stanford University. “At this moment, there is not enough clinical evidence to support the routine use of ivermectin.”
''Even one of the drug’s main manufacturers, Merck, said in a Feb. 4 statement that there’s “no meaningful evidence” to suggest ivermectin works to treat or prevent COVID, and that there’s been “a concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.”
However, people have become so convinced that ivermectin is a cheap and readily available “cure” for COVID, they continue to take it against all medical advice and common sense.''
I started to come down with a cold/flu on Sunday and got tested on Monday - results came back positive so I'm in isolation for a week. Working from home anyway and I'll start back "at work" tomorrow - had Monday and Tuesday off because I was feeling sick, but mild symptoms.
For me it's been like a cold but with more headache and no runny nose. A bit of fatigue to start with but that only lasted a day. The last two nights when I've gone to bed I've been fully congested (with what? Nose has not been runny) and haven't been able to breathe through my nose but wake up in the morning and all is clear again. Even though I woke up this morning without a headache and feeling the best I have been for the past few days, my sense of smell/taste is completely gone - normally the bedroom smells like farts in the morning.
I am double vaxed BTW. The second shot gave me headaches similar to the covid and extra aches than covid but only lasted a day, and no congestion or loss of smell.
double vaxed lmao. Not so smart huh
the moron is virtue signaling his ignorance of basic science
" In the latest report on ivermectin, researchers said dangerous side effects from taking ivermectin can include confusion, loss of control over body movement ("ataxia"), weakness, low blood pressure, seizures, gastrointestinal distress, dizziness, vision symptoms or rash. The side effects can be triggered by taking too much of the drug or having it interact with other medications, they noted.
"It's very easy to give yourself too much. Most people who develop symptoms probably took too much, but we did have several people who were taking it for days and weeks and then developed toxicity," said lead researcher Dr. Robert Hendrickson. He is associate medical director of the Oregon Poison Center and a professor of emergency medicine at Oregon Health and Science University, in Portland.
"It's an unusual medication in that it has a lot of interactions, so even if you're taking the normal dose prescribed for other disorders, you can get sick because of interactions with other medications," he explained. "It's usually a medication we're fairly careful with."
Hendrickson explained that ivermectin can accumulate in the brain. "That's where most of the toxicity is — you get off balance, you get confused and feel weak — that's where most of the interactions are," he said.
Early studies in cell cultures seemed to indicate that ivermectin could prevent COVID-19 from entering cells, but that has not panned out in humans, Hendrickson said.
Yet, the drug continues to be touted by those who oppose COVID-19 vaccines, even though no proof exists that it is effective in preventing or treating COVID-19, he said.
For the study, Hendrickson's team reviewed ivermectin-related calls to the Oregon Poison Center in August. In all, 21 people reported side effects after taking the drug.
Most of the reports came from people over 60 years of age. Eleven of the reports were from people who took ivermectin to prevent COVID-19. The other 10 took the drug to treat COVID-19 symptoms.
Among those taking ivermectin, three had a prescription from a doctor or veterinarian, and 17 purchased veterinary versions of the drug. Where the others got the drug isn't known."
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