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4,000’ is about right, but it snowed on us last time. Temps vary but it’s usually fairly brisk.
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Had one, on a Ruger 77 Mk 2 Action.... H 335 with a 25 grain load with a 55 SP, messed that action up, TWICE... and destroyed two stocks... what do you think happened there? very hot day/ammo/chamber? brass not trimmed to length? over charge from a bridge in the powder throw? (with ball powder?) over size bullet? any ideas?
...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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I have a new-to-me stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .223. It shot my previous 75 gr ELDM load okay, but not how I know Tikkas can shoot. I figure that if I have to do it over I’m gonna do it differently. I did some research and decided to try TAC. I’m running it kinda hot so I’m not gonna post my load, but chrono testing gets me 3043, ES 16, SD 6, but only 7 shots. Brass looks fine, no bolt lift issues. I’m loading pretty long with Mountain Tactical magazines. I put together a seating depth test starting at just kissing the lands (2.477”) and ending at 2.373,” which isn’t far from the ogive. Weather permitting I’ll be able to get an afternoon in maybe Wednesday. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/pL4ZB7st/73-CD9456-F240-4580-9-F9-C-E3-E8-D8-B657-D5.jpg) I’m looking for Tikka accuracy. 3043 with a .235 G7 ain’t bad. P Yeah, 3,043 fps with a 75 ELD out of a .223 is crazy fast. 2,900 or so is where I'd be shutting things down fwiw. Max charge of Varget gets me 2977 so I’m not that far off. Why hand load if not to push the limits of performance? Hand loading conservatively is like asking a red headed whore to hold your hand. Meanin’ no disrespect to red headed whores, of course. P Got any pics of the redhead? Is she thick? Just wondering. 😁
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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I have a new-to-me stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .223. It shot my previous 75 gr ELDM load okay, but not how I know Tikkas can shoot. I figure that if I have to do it over I’m gonna do it differently. I did some research and decided to try TAC. I’m running it kinda hot so I’m not gonna post my load, but chrono testing gets me 3043, ES 16, SD 6, but only 7 shots. Brass looks fine, no bolt lift issues. I’m loading pretty long with Mountain Tactical magazines. I put together a seating depth test starting at just kissing the lands (2.477”) and ending at 2.373,” which isn’t far from the ogive. Weather permitting I’ll be able to get an afternoon in maybe Wednesday. I’m looking for Tikka accuracy. 3043 with a .235 G7 ain’t bad. P Yeah, 3,043 fps with a 75 ELD out of a .223 is crazy fast. 2,900 or so is where I'd be shutting things down fwiw. Max charge of Varget gets me 2977 so I’m not that far off. Why hand load if not to push the limits of performance? Hand loading conservatively is like asking a red headed whore to hold your hand. Meanin’ no disrespect to red headed whores, of course. P Got any pics of the redhead? Is she thick? Just wondering. 😁 Now you guys have done it. Les loves thick red heads... The thread is going to take a turn now..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I have a new-to-me stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .223. It shot my previous 75 gr ELDM load okay, but not how I know Tikkas can shoot. I figure that if I have to do it over I’m gonna do it differently. I did some research and decided to try TAC. I’m running it kinda hot so I’m not gonna post my load, but chrono testing gets me 3043, ES 16, SD 6, but only 7 shots. Brass looks fine, no bolt lift issues. I’m loading pretty long with Mountain Tactical magazines. I put together a seating depth test starting at just kissing the lands (2.477”) and ending at 2.373,” which isn’t far from the ogive. Weather permitting I’ll be able to get an afternoon in maybe Wednesday. I’m looking for Tikka accuracy. 3043 with a .235 G7 ain’t bad. P Yeah, 3,043 fps with a 75 ELD out of a .223 is crazy fast. 2,900 or so is where I'd be shutting things down fwiw. Max charge of Varget gets me 2977 so I’m not that far off. Why hand load if not to push the limits of performance? Hand loading conservatively is like asking a red headed whore to hold your hand. Meanin’ no disrespect to red headed whores, of course. P Got any pics of the redhead? Is she thick? Just wondering. 😁 Now you guys have done it. Les loves thick red heads... The thread is going to take a turn now.. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/pL57HJR1/DD665-F3-C-9-E5-D-4-BD7-80-D6-D3-D45-BF4-E504.jpg) Yes I do 😁
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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Should be Maureen O'hara IIRC
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Should be Maureen O'hara IIRC Beautiful woman
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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John Wayne's favorite leading lady I believe.
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad."
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"Jimmy, some of it's magic,
Some of it's tragic,
But I had a good life all the way."
(Jimmy Buffett)
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Should be Maureen O'hara IIRC just how YOUNG are you guys? I could tell ya that as far back as 1965 or so.... always had a thing for redheads and she was ONE of the BEST.
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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Phew!
I’m only running them to 3150 out of a .22BR with LVR.
I had a tough time finding a node out of my AR with 73’s and 75 BTHP’s with TAC. Though I’m sure I’m running them WAY deeper than Pharm.
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Sticks lvr load with 75 bthp's hornadies works fine in my ar 5.56. While accuracy was good in my t3x hb that load is to hot in a 223 chamber...mb
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
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Sticks lvr load with 75 bthp's hornadies works fine in my ar 5.56. While accuracy was good in my t3x hb that load is to hot in a 223 chamber...mb How are the 75gr bthp’s on deer?
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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They fold up Tennessee deer real handy like.
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I use more of the 75 amax but a friend uses more of the 75 bthp. We get the same results. Normally a very short death run if lung shot and a shoulder shot folds them up.
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Back when women had class. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/MHcBNj5z/5-E2-C8-D2-A-41-B5-42-AA-B434-6887555-ED5-E6.jpg)
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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I use more of the 75 amax but a friend uses more of the 75 bthp. We get the same results. Normally a very short death run if lung shot and a shoulder shot folds them up. Might be worth a try!
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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Back when women had class. Very classy lady.
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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I’ve been shooting what I call the new and improved 2.5” 223 for about 4 years. Rifle is a 700 with a Krieger 26” and a JP chassis(Ackley chamber). Standard load is Varget powder and CCI 450s with Amax’s seated to 2.490” @ 3060fps. Cases have been loaded 7-8 times. Pockets are still tight. I believe long seating is key in this equation.
Someone asked what the difference between the 75gr A-Max and the 75gr ELDs. The A-Maxs shoot fine out to 600 yards (3/4 MOA) but @ 700 yards groups degrade to 2 MOA. My theory is the tips are burning off. Checked my theory with 75gr ELDs and groups @ 700 are 3/4 MOA. I don’t shoot past 600 too often at varmints so I continued to shoot the A-Maxs until they were depleted last Fall.
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