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This ought to get the pot going!
Time and again I hear well meaning 1911 owners state that JMB designed the 1911 to be carried Condition 1.
Nothing wrong with condition 1 carry, but the notion that Browning designed it to be carried that way is simply not accurate.
Most people who make that claim are simply dealing in parroted hearsay.
If one does their homework, they know better.


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Cocked and locked is the only condition to carry a 1911 for work.


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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Cocked and locked is the only condition to carry a 1911 for work.

I agree but that has nothing to do with the design myth.

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No idea of JMB’s intentions for how his design would’ve been carried. Time and experience have proven condition one is the only viable method.

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Cocked and locked!

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Originally Posted by hanco
Cocked and locked!

Good choice

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I think WWII soldiers carried it condition 3.

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Originally Posted by Mountain10mm
I think WWII soldiers carried it condition 3.

I think that was sop for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Uncle_Alvah
This ought to get the pot going!
Time and again I hear well meaning 1911 owners state that JMB designed the 1911 to be carried Condition 1.
Nothing wrong with condition 1 carry, but the notion that Browning designed it to be carried that way is simply not accurate.
Most people who make that claim are simply dealing in parroted hearsay.
If one does their homework, they know better.


I doubt JMB ever intended for the BAR to be used by civilians when hunting elk either... But here we are...

Any 1911 I own is cocked and locked as we speak. That's the only way I'll carry one, or have it in my home, or pickup.


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If memory serves, he was guided into the features that the military requested, one of which was the thumb safety. He didn't put those on his earlier pistols along the lines that led to the 1911. But he did design them per the Army's request, and having designed the thumb safety, it was indeed intended to be reholstered cocked and locked, with a round in the chamber, since it was intended for a man on a horse to be capable of firing it while riding, and then, after hot action ceased, to be able to simply activate the thumb safety and reholster it, rather than returning it to an empty chamber condition or a loaded chamber condition with a lowered hammer.

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Any 1911 I own is cocked and locked as we speak. That's the only way I'll carry one, or have it in my home, or pickup.
Same.

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Originally Posted by Uncle_Alvah
This ought to get the pot going!
Time and again I hear well meaning 1911 owners state that JMB designed the 1911 to be carried Condition 1.
Nothing wrong with condition 1 carry, but the notion that Browning designed it to be carried that way is simply not accurate.
Most people who make that claim are simply dealing in parroted hearsay.
If one does their homework, they know better.
I, for one, am very intetested in hearing more of your knowledge on this subject.

I will only comment that any horseman who has not the ability to draw and rack the slide on a 1911 while riding at any speed has no business in the horse soldier business.


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Condition 3 is no longer a real argument for a 1911 - carry the damn thing cocked and locked like God intended. But for a striker-fire pistol, the wheels fall off on Condition 1 or Condition 3ish argument.


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
Originally Posted by Uncle_Alvah
This ought to get the pot going!
Time and again I hear well meaning 1911 owners state that JMB designed the 1911 to be carried Condition 1.
Nothing wrong with condition 1 carry, but the notion that Browning designed it to be carried that way is simply not accurate.
Most people who make that claim are simply dealing in parroted hearsay.
If one does their homework, they know better.
I, for one, am very intetested in hearing more of your knowledge on this subject.

I will only comment that any horseman who has not the ability to draw and rack the slide on a 1911 while riding at any speed has no business in the horse soldier business.

Now that’s been cleared up for the minuscule portion of users who will find themselves in such a predicament. I thought horseback types carried the SAA anyway. How were those loaded for mounted carry? Rhetorical question only, of course.

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Originally Posted by Uncle_Alvah
This ought to get the pot going!
Time and again I hear well meaning 1911 owners state that JMB designed the 1911 to be carried Condition 1.
Nothing wrong with condition 1 carry, but the notion that Browning designed it to be carried that way is simply not accurate.
Most people who make that claim are simply dealing in parroted hearsay.
If one does their homework, they know better.

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I'm surprised that there was never a Scout version of the pistol.


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