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My buddies son is going elk huntIng and using some Remington corelocv bks over 165 grain over 56 grains of imrb4350 what you say

Assuming I decoded your post correctly, seems like a solid choice assuming it shoots well in his gun.

If reloading, I personally would have chosen another bullet - but in the 165-180 range. IMO, if I’m going to shoot Core-Lokt’s, I might as well just buy factory ammo at Walmart.

That bullet is certainly a proven killer though, and at 56gr it should be going 2800 fps MV or so.

I'd opt for a 180 gr. If 165 go with a partition.

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I'd switch to H4350. Just a touch slower burning, more temp stability and an increase in MV.

57 grains of IMR-4350 under a 165 grain Ballistic Tip has been my go to 30/06 load for decades. If a rifle doesn’t shoot that load for me, then I know I have some detective work to do on that rifle.

I'd say if your buddies son can shoot he will be A-Ok. I think there are better bullets these days that are available, but no elk will sluff them off for long if you hit them where it counts.

I found that anything between 57.0-59.0 grains of IMR4350 under a 165 grain Hornady SP Interlock shoots great (<1") in my Browning X-Bolt. 57.5 gr. was the sweet spot. I've never shot anything bigger than a whitetail with it though so I can't comment on how it would do on elk.

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The times I have temp tested IMR4350--albeit the last time was 10+ years ago--velocity and POI changed from my warm weather baseline.

Can you even find H4350? I was using IMR then couldn't find any and went to Hodgdon and loved it but now had to try Accurate ....so far not with great results but also had to try something other than Sierra.

With really tough brass like Lapua, you can bump the load up. I shoot more than that with one Rem 700 factory with 180g Ballistic tip, which would be more than adequate for elk...they are tougher than you would think, but a Partition in this weight would be the Mack Daddy. 200g Partitions are serious elk medicine in the '06. I rode mules back then an a riding partner shoot the 200g Partitions pushing some pressure with H4831 in Lake City match brass.


Note: 150g Barnes TTSX will out penetrate a 180g ballistic tip and on par with a 200g Partition.

H4350 is popping up now. I have seen it on a few shelves. I saw some Cabelas last week.

I've now replaced 4350 with Ramshot Hunter, excellent accuracy higher velocity and lower pressures

Not a corelokt fan here and I usually run 57.5 grains of Imr 4350 in Winchester case and much prefer a partition for elk.

A few years back I shot an elk with the 165 gr. Nosler Accubond. The rifle is a custom Mauser with a 24" supposed 1 in 12" twist barrel. It never has shot heavier bullets worth spit. The elk ran about 30 yards after the hit and expired. I think that while it worked out just fine, I might go with the 165 gr. Partition should I use the rifle on another elk hunt. My preference would be for either a 180 gr. Accubond or Partition but the rifle won't shoot them.

The load is 56.0 gr. W760, Winchester brass, Winchester WLR primer. According to Winchester's published data that load is maximum and I worked up from five percent below. Velocity is just shy of 2900 FPS in my rifle and accuracy is excellent.

FWIW, the bullet hit in the short ribs and went on ending in the left lung making jello out of the lung. No visible exit and the bullet was not recovered. Probably was buried in what was left of the lung.

PJ

Try the 150 Barnes, extremely accurate in five 06’s I have.

Here ya go.Some great advice from our Mule Deer
https://kristian555.livejournal.com/27291.html

Case full of H4350 fed 210m Lapua brass and Barnes 168 ttsx 2 moose 1 elk, all one shot kills. My last moose was shot with a Barnes 175 LRX 1 shot to the shoulder at 110 yards put him down.

I've used that load with a Sierra Game King, great accuracy and kills whitetails dead !

when is he going? what rifle? scope?