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I don’t get why we can’t have both rock solid performance and excellent glass in a $1000 - $1200 scope. Is it really that hard to do at that price range?
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I don’t get why we can’t have both rock solid performance and excellent glass in a $1000 - $1200 scope. Is it really that hard to do at that price range? Apparently, yes and price range doesn’t even matter. Dollars aside, you can count on one hand scopes that are notably reliable, yet they all have good to great glass.
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To me, glass does matter if you’re trying to squeeze the last few minutes out of a hunt. I’m may be in the minority but I don’t have to have a sub-MOA rifle that can dial precise shots to 500+ yards. I hunted for many years with BAR that was a 3” gun on its best day and killed piles of deer with it. I do need a scope that I can get on target at 100 yards in the last minutes of light in dark timber though.
Credo beats out the VX6 in the glass department? Will have to try one if that’s the case. The issue is, pretty much any scope will do that these days. Take your pick. But if you want that AND you want reliability, the field gets narrowed immensely.
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The issue is, pretty much any scope will do that these days. Take your pick. But if you want that AND you want reliability, the field gets narrowed immensely. That's not been my experience but I'm sure everyone is different. Several years ago maybe, but as I've aged into my 50s that is no longer the case. I have a VX5-HD 3-15x44 that just barely gets me 30 minutes past sunset in the timber that I hunt in on overcast days. Anything less glass wise would not work for me.
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I really like my old meopta-conquest conquest.
If the V4 is a significant glass upgrade, it will be tough to beat. The credos are tanks.....ld guess maybe heavier as well. Just so you know, the new V4 is not a noticeable (to my eyes) step up in glass quality. However, what you do get is an improvement in turrets and tracking. No bass ackwards turrets on the new one. The V4 is a fairly lightweight scope that tracks well. Time will tell how reliable they are.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I have a Trijicon Credo, I do not own a Zeiss V-4. So I can not give you a apples to apples comparison. I have owned 2 other Ziess scopes in the past. The Credo is an excellent scope. It works well for me in low light conditions. as I'm sure the Ziess will as well. Imo there is no wrong choice here. Do you plain on carrying it a lot, or hunting out of a stand or blind. The Credo is heavier. The difference for me would be what I could get the best deal on.
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Then again, a few weeks ago europtic had a mrad version of the credo hx 2.5x10 56mm for $520.... I got in on that deal and man am I glad. Zero buyers remorse. I’m impressed with the light gathering ability and I also have a V4 and comparing side-by-side on a hunt next week so I will try to report back.
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Then again, a few weeks ago europtic had a mrad version of the credo hx 2.5x10 56mm for $520.... I got in on that deal and man am I glad. Zero buyers remorse. I’m impressed with the light gathering ability and I also have a V4 and comparing side-by-side on a hunt next week so I will try to report back. Looking forward to hearing back on this
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I bought 3 Zeiss V4's 4-16's when Midway had them on sale ($699 I believe). Great low light scope, I shot a Texas buck at 6:00PM this year. I own a NIB 3-9 Trijicon Accupoint, never had it on a rifle, the glass is amazing. I'm generally a Leupold/Nightforce guy. No experience with the Credo. I may be going up to Euro-Optics in the near future, I'll let you know my thoughts on the Credo. Good luck in your search Randall.
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I bought 3 Zeiss V4's 4-16's when Midway had them on sale ($699 I believe). Great low light scope, I shot a Texas buck at 6:00PM this year. I own a NIB 3-9 Trijicon Accupoint, never had it on a rifle, the glass is amazing. I'm generally a Leupold/Nightforce guy. No experience with the Credo. I may be going up to Euro-Optics in the near future, I'll let you know my thoughts on the Credo. Good luck in your search Randall. Thanks Bob. I just got a helluva deal on some demo binos from Euro-optics. Text me your thoughts on the Credo when you get a chance. Catch you later.
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