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I'm curious as to where you all zero your rifle scope with an elevation turret.
I just bought a Leupold VX-3HD 4.5x14 40mm CDS for my 240 Wby using 70 grain bullets. I can zero this rifle at 250 yards and not go over 2" out to 250 and not below -2.5" out to 300. I'm -6" at 350 and -10.6 at 400. I haven't run the numbers past 400, but feel I would like to use the turret dial at 350 and beyond. This is pretty much a coyote rifle. Long shots are rare, but do occur occasionally.
I read that some people zero at 100 or 200 yards, but feel this would require fiddling with the turret too much past 250 or so and I don't feel like fiddling with a turret at those ranges.
If I was using a scope like this for varmint hunting I would have time to turn a turret, but feel it's different for a hunting rifle.
I haven't ordered the custom dial yet.
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Yaddio I zero at 100 and dial MPBR when hunting. If farther than about 300, I’ll adjust from MPBR as necessary. John
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I like +2.5" at 100 yds. then out to 300yds will be 3.0" or less low.
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Interesting responses... I would think that if one was to zero at 100 and dial up to 200 or 250 while hunting that they'd have to be quite confident in the scopes ability to accurately dial up.
Has anyone experienced turrets inadvertently dialing up or down while hunting? Like out of the zero lock and rubbing to another setting? Sounds like you bought a scope you have no confidence in. Shooting it will hopefully build confidence. Like a lot of us I did a lot of online research before buying and then purchase in accordance with our budgets. Reviews vary and I have to take them with a grain of salt. I've never had a scope with adjustable turrets, first one for me, so I'll have to shoot and dial and build confidence. I've got a bunch of Leupolds going back many years and have confidence in them. What I was thinking, besides accidentally moving a turret, was this: If you zero a rifle at your zero stop and keep it at that stop, it'll probably perform much like a scope without an adjustable turret. If you zero stop a rifle at say, 100 yds and then dial it up to 250 yds before hunting will it hold that same spot consistently?. If it does I'll be confident.
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I set all of mine up so I can be zero'd at 100. While hunting wooded areas I leave it there. In open spots I set it to 200 and dial from there.
Depending on how the zero stop (if there is one) is set up, where I set the dial's 0 marker will vary. If it's a hard stop at 0 with no option to dial below I'll put the 0 at 100...this would be like the S&B PMII. On something like Nightforce's NXS zero stop, I'll put the hard stop at 100, then place the 0 mark at 200. Crank down to the hard stop when in the woods, dial to the marked 0 when in the open.
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Zero at 200. Only need to dial past 300 yards for most situations.
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Depends, on cartridge, scope, and use. .22s get zeroed at 50. CFs generally get zeroed at the farthest range that doesn’t require a midrange peak of over 1.5”, generally at 175-200. That’s mostly just in case, because it's been a long, long time since I had an opportunity at anything other than a woodchuck at over 100. Aside from a couple of SWFAs, my scopes, even if dependable dialers, have capped turrets, so holding over a bit is more practical since opportunities are fleeting. If I ever get an opportunity on one of the local farms, that could change.
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Depends, on cartridge, scope, and use. .22s get zeroed at 50. CFs generally get zeroed at the farthest range that doesn’t require a midrange peak of over 1.5”, generally at 175-200. That’s mostly just in case, because it's been a long, long time since I had an opportunity at anything other than a woodchuck at over 100. Aside from a couple of SWFAs, my scopes, even if dependable dialers, have capped turrets, so holding over a bit is more practical since opportunities are fleeting. If I ever get an opportunity on one of the local farms, that could change. A lot of you guys using Kentucky windage should try a ballistic type reticle. Especially if you are too nervous about dialing, or your scopes reliability.
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For guns I only use locally (no really Big swings in atmospherics/altitude) I zero at 200.
For guns I travel with I zero at 100 and dial up to 200
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I zero at 200, 225, 250 depending upon the trajectory of the cartridge / load. Then dial if required. Yep. For me, 90% of my shots in the field will be doable with MPBR that assumes a reasonable mid-range rise. When I need the "extra gears" of a turret or reticle, (either to extend range of POI or to increase short-range precision of POI) they are waiting in reserve.
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Like others, zero at 100 and dial up to a practical distance while hunting. I want a confident zero, without eyesight limitations or atmospheric influences (wind, mirage, etc). I want to eliminate error in my zero. That’s harder to do with more range. Get a capped turret if worried about one rotating, but honestly, with a good scope, inadvertent turret twisting just doesn’t happen. This.
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I bought the same scope, several times, and sent the dials to Leupold for customization. I zeroed the last one at 175 yards and the dial is set for the 175 zero and that's where it's locked, I would dial from there but in reality I have not had to as it's pretty flat to 300 yards or so and I have not had any opportunity for shots that far. Most target shooters would zero to 100 and dial from there but hunters don't always have the luxury of time to dial.
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I'm curious as to where you all zero your rifle scope with an elevation turret. For centerfires I zero at 100, for rimfires 50, and adjust as needed. It is not needed far more often than it is needed.
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I zero at 100 and dial MPBR when hunting. If farther than about 300, I’ll adjust from MPBR as necessary.
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Zero at 200. Only need to dial past 300 yards for most situations. ^this guy gets it
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Depends, on cartridge, scope, and use. .22s get zeroed at 50. CFs generally get zeroed at the farthest range that doesn’t require a midrange peak of over 1.5”, generally at 175-200. That’s mostly just in case, because it's been a long, long time since I had an opportunity at anything other than a woodchuck at over 100. Aside from a couple of SWFAs, my scopes, even if dependable dialers, have capped turrets, so holding over a bit is more practical since opportunities are fleeting. If I ever get an opportunity on one of the local farms, that could change. A lot of you guys using Kentucky windage should try a ballistic type reticle. Especially if you are too nervous about dialing, or your scopes reliability. Agreed. It’s silly. There’s no need for that these days.
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Set at 100 - dial all the rest. This ^
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I'm firmly in the camp of either setting zero at MPBR or rolling with a 200 yard zero. When a shooter buck stands up from the cattails at roughly 275 yards or when that big bull stops trotting and looks back at roughly 325 yards, I don't want to have to range and dial in order to hit them. Dialing is for when I have time to make a long shot, not for the 350 and in shots. 100 yard zeros are for guys that probably don't need a scope with turrets and guys that are competitive target shooting.
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i zero at 300, one turn on the turret gets most calibers 850-1000 yards,,, i hate spinning more then one revolution
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I zero at 200, 225, 250 depending upon the trajectory of the cartridge / load. Then dial if required. Yep. For me, 90% of my shots in the field will be doable with MPBR that assumes a reasonable mid-range rise. When I need the "extra gears" of a turret or reticle, (either to extend range of POI or to increase short-range precision of POI) they are waiting in reserve. Same here. 90% of my rifles are zeroed at 250. Works great for a 0-300 easy shot and the ability to dial beyond is always there.
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