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Does anyone have a preferred load for the 35 REM with IMR 4198 powder and 200 grain SP interlock? I am finding conflicting data on the max load for this powder. One source says 27.1 grains ( https://shootersreference.com/reloadingdata/35-remington/) , another 30 grains? So I am looking for clarification of the max load for IMR 4198 and a preferred load for that powder if you have one. THX
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I found a good load in my development experience. I cast Lyman mold number 358315 which is a 204gr round nose, lubed, and seated with gas checks. My favorite charge is 32grs IMR-4198. These chronograph 2150fps in my 18" 760 pump 35 Remington. Cast lead and lubed offer less friction. This equates well with the Hodgdon 2020 annual manual load of 30.5grs H4198 pushing the 200gr Hornady round nose for 31,700 CUP. COL:2.510".
27grs sounds awfully light. Might be good for 1800fps if that's your goal.
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You're not going to get useful expansion of the spire point 200 grain Hornady in the .35 Remington. That bullet is built for faster rounds. .358/ .35 Whelen etc. The round nose bullet is just fine out to 200 yards.
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You're not going to get useful expansion of the spire point 200 grain Hornady in the .35 Remington. That bullet is built for faster rounds. .358/ .35 Whelen etc. The round nose bullet is just fine out to 200 yards. ^^^ As far as different loading levels go; look at the rifle they are using first. If the rifle is a modern rifle and has forward locking lugs such as Model 70’s, 600’s, 760’s and others maximum loads will likely be higher than older rifles such as the original Remington 35 Rem’s, or lever guns (336) and so forth. Even with identical rifles some guys will ‘hot rod’ the loads. I’m down to one 35 Remington - a JM 336. I feel that hot loads don’t belong in that rifle anymore than the early Remington pump I had. I wouldn’t hot rod a Contender either for that matter. I have a 358 Win on a 700 action that I’d use if the 35 Rem was lacking.
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The throat and action type will be the limting factors on how hot it can be loaded. Most 35 Rems have short throats and leave no room for seating the bullet out to gain more case capacity. I also don't recommend that bullet for the 35 Rem. It's a hard bullet that performs fine in the 358 Win but even better in the 35 Whelen.
Fury Custom Bullets makes a number of quite capable bullets. I tested their 220gr JFP last year and it performed admirably in my bolt action 35 Rem rifle.
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I find in a 308 based case, 30 grains of IMR 4198 is a pretty simple all around charge, regardless of bullet weight.. there are always exceptions, but I've never found it with that charge weight and any bullet weight I've ever used..
If that bullet won't do the job, with a charge like that, then that is the wrong bullet choice... not the wrong powder charge to get that bullet weight to the target you're shooting at..
I burn a lot of 30 grains of IMR 4198, in calibers from 22.250 up to a 444 Marlin... even works just fine at reasonable range expectations in a 300 Win Mag or a 338 Win Mag...
and its pretty consistent across the board regardless of bullet weight in that caliber...
same can be said for H 4198 and with RL 7.
H 4198 is not as consistently as accurate as IMR's version or RL 7... but it will still get the job done...
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