Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Alec Baldwin criminally charged

One need look no further than the first rule of gun safety to know the answer

At least the pos is feeling a bit of misery. I hope it continues for him.

He will probably skate on the criminal suit, but the upcoming civil suit is gonna cost him.

Tony

I hope he looks like Ron Jeremy before he gets another acting job...

I don't believe he will see any jail time , but he has against exposed himself to what a creep he is by stating he didn't pull the trigger.

I laughed

I love the confidence on display here.

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Oh dear.

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While the rules of gun safety are very wise, they are not actually in the law. Non-shooters are not presumed to be familiar with them.

Some good reading

I have mentioned this previously but Alec Baldwin’s father was a Marine Corp veteran and a long time, highly respected Massapequa, NY high school Rifle Team coach. Won a number of New York high School Small Bore 3 Position Rifle Championship’s. Growing up in that environment and attending the high school where his father taught and coached shooting skills, I find it highly unlikely that Baldwin was not fully aware of firearm safety basics.

My take on it, and I am absolutely no fan of Baldwin. They hired an " expert" whose job it was to provide a service, they failed. If you hired a caterer to serve at a banquet and that caterer prepared food improperly that resulted in salmonella poisoning ( which can actually be fatal in rare instances) are you then liable for any damages? I know guns and food is a poor comparison but the principal applies the same. The caterer is to blame

Civil suit has already been settled. As much as I hate Alex Baldwin, a non-gun guy on a set with an armorer, I don't think it's his fault, just my opinion. Two things, how a 20 something woman became the armorer needs to be looked at and I have a .22 training pistol for my bird dogs. The hole in the barrel is smaller than .22, I guess so the gases from the blanks can espace, there is no way a bullet could fire out the barrel unless I drilled the barrel out, why isn't this done on all prop barrels?

Unless you slipped into the kitchen and stirred dog schitt into the food. Then it would be tough to blame the caterer.

Baldwin stirred in the dog schitt!

What factors may come into play in his criminal culpability.

Did he know that guns were being used for plinking?

Did he know that ammo had been seen laying around?

Does he know what the industry standards are for safe gun handling?

If the answer to any of the above is yes, then it would seem that he'd own some responsibility beyond civil. If he was aware of 2 or more, I think a very solid case could be made.

https://www.backstage.com/magazine/...rCvFMAdoP_gDb6iUVHGDBlRMOO8E#section5The Actors’ Equity Association also creates guidelines specifically for actors. Here are their safety tips for using firearms:

Treat all prop guns as if they are real.
Treat all guns as if they are loaded.
Unless you are actually performing or rehearsing, the property master must secure all firearms.
The property master or armorer should carefully train you in the safe use of any firearm you must handle. Be honest if you have no knowledge about guns. Do not overstate your qualifications.
Follow all instructions given by the qualified instructor.
Never engage in horseplay with any firearms or other weapons. Do not let others handle the gun issued to you for any reason.
All loading of firearms must be done by the property master, armorer, or experienced persons working under their direct supervision.
Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot by aiming to the right or left of the target character. If asked to point and shoot directly at a living target, consult with the property master or armorer for the prescribed safety procedures.
If you are the intended target of a gunshot, make sure that the person firing in your direction has followed all these safety procedures.
If you are required to wear exploding blood squibs, make sure there is a bulletproof vest or other solid protection between you and the blast packet
Use protective shields for all offstage cast within close proximity to any shots fired.
Appropriate ear protection should be offered to the cast members and crew.
Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each use, make sure the gun has previously been test-fired offstage. and then ask to test-fire it yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside.
Blanks can be dangerous. Even though they do not fire bullets out of the gun barrel, they still have a powerful blast that can maim or kill.
Never attempt to adjust, modify, or repair a firearm yourself. If a weapon jams or malfunctions, corrections shall be made only by a qualified person. Notify a prop person or Armorer immediately.
When a scene is completed, the property master shall unload and take possession of the firearms. All weapons must be cleaned, checked, and inventoried by the prop department after each performance.
Live ammunition may not be brought into the theater or onto a studio lot.
If you are in a production where gunshots are to be fired and there is no qualified property master, go to the nearest phone and call Actors’ Equity Association. A union representative will make sure proper procedures are followed.
State and federal safety laws must be honored at all times.
If any of the above safety tips conflict with the instructions given by a qualified instructor, abide by the instructions from the qualified instructor. If you are still not sure, contact your Equity Business Representative.

I'll add one to your list: Did he know it's not a good idea to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger?

Even if it's loaded with blanks?

I don't understand, way back Gene Autry "invented" fist fighting in movies, they miss with the punch. Wouldn't they not aim directory at the person?

He said that someone is responsible for her death, but it isn't me. The sleazy bastard.

Jesus. He's turning into a Mad Max character.

Some ivy league attorney with a lot of guns sent me a copy of:
State v. Gilliam 1955

Here is a link I found:
https://law.justia.com/cases/new-mexico/supreme-court/1955/5950-0.html

My ignorant interpretation is that it says, shoot someone accidentally and go to jail.

I had to read contracts for engineering work. They were mostly vanilla boilerplate. This criminal jargon sucks.