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Sorry man, I was responding to several of your earlier pointed and direct posts and questions to another individual regarding Judaism, but my response wasn’t directed at you.

Yes Sir.
If you can understand the NT, you will see that the law was only given to show them that they couldn't be good enough and would have to rely on the sacrifice rather than their own ability, thus making the way for them to rely on the perfect sacrifice of Jesus.

Thanks for the reply, but seems not the case. The "we" I noted was used by mauserand9mm, and not in the context of abandonment of a church or denomination by a Christian.

It was stated thusly: "The more we know the more the gods dissappear into the folklore."

I think that ‘sin’ is intentionally doing something that you inherently know to be wrong. Do ‘you’ need a “reference” to tell you that the intentionally wrong thing that you’re doing is ‘wrong’…?I think that He was referring to one intentionally doing something that one inherently knows to be wrong.

Sounds like man doing "what's right in his own eyes" and we're specifically cautioned against this.

Jesus would have referred back to His Father’s law which He came to fulfill because we couldn’t.

He didn’t delete the law He fulfilled it for those who look to Him in faith. Those who don’t believe that He came to do that are placing their faith in themselves to fulfill it on their own behalf.

No reason to have a list of this or that sin or which is worse. The whole point of salvation is to be rid of a sin consciousness. Christian philosophy tells you that you aren't getting to heaven based on not sinning. Trust in your savior. Trust the sacrifice and not your ability and focus attention on the things that bring love, joy, peace, goodness, gentleness meekness, and longsuffering and there will be no need to worry about sin.

Don't know exactly what you mean by that. What does it mean when a contract is fulfilled? What would I mean if I said to you," I didn't come here to tear up your contract, I came to fulfill it." It would mean that the contract was finished and paid in full.

I absolutely and unequivocally believe that God loves us and forgives us and saves us...not because of who we are or because of anything we do (such as ‘not’ sinning)…but because of what Jesus did on the cross. Our best efforts would never be good enough to ‘earn’ salvation. We are not saved by obeying a list of do’s and don’t’s, rules and regulations, or by ‘not’ sinning…but by God’s grace alone...through faith in Jesus...and not at all by our own efforts (such as ‘not’ sinning) or works.

Antlers, you believe an individual is his own moral compass, or as Oprah would say, an individual is their own God. I must admit to being very disappointed in hearing you say that.

That's the we I referenced

Clarification, the God of Christians is one of many gods known, or invented, or worshiped (your choice) by mankind through the millenia.

I would be okay with any member who wanted to follow "jackass" to his new club.

Is that not what proselytizing is all about? Pulling folks away from their club, to yours, so you can charge them dues.

Where does scripture say Saul actually killed Xtians?

I've never found the scripture detailing such and
Prof. Bart Ehrman is on record saying the same.


But Different fathers apparently.

I believe that every human being has a conscience which has been placed there by God Himself. Christian scripture also teaches that. There is a sense of right and wrong that we all have. I believe that God put a conscience within each of us ~ a sense of right and wrong. And even those who have never even heard of Christian scripture still know the difference.

I would say they when someone is saved, they get a new compass. They don't need to study all the rules because the ruler will guide them.

Why do you think he was on the way to Damascus to have them arrested. Scripture also records him at Steven's stoning.

My understanding of the reconciliation made through the cross is that Christ’s active obedience in leading a perfect life & His passive obedience in dying fulfilled the law’s demands for those who look to Him and His work in faith. Hence I qualified fulfillment based upon a man’s faith.

Is that not your understanding? Is it your understanding that fulfillment came between Him & mankind as a whole rather than individuals? Is that what you’re getting at?

Yes, but we also have concupiscence and ignorance.

1./ "arrested" doesnt mean killed.
2./ Does scripture describe Saul actively
throwing stones at Steven?

"Recently in Iraq, 19 Yazidi girls were placed in iron cages and burned alive in front of a crowd of hundreds, for refusing to copulate with jihadis."

"Religious minority women under IS [Islamic State] control are often repeatedly sold from jihadi to jihadi. Once militants get tired of raping and abusing one particular girl, they usually sell them off to one of their militant buddies so they can rape and abuse them at their own pleasure."

"After their children were abducted by the Islamic State, a couple answered their door to find the body parts of their daughters and a video of them being tortured and raped."

"Christian girls are considered goods to be damaged at leisure. Abusing them is a right. According to the community's mentality it is not even a crime. Muslims regard them as spoils of war."

Radical Islams' conscience tells them this okay.

Hitler did all his damage with the Church as the main weapon. Most Germans believed what they were doing was morally right.