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Re: Fast twist 220 swift Seafire #18094645 02/03/23
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 6,926 Upper Midwest selmer Campfire Tracker
selmer Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 6,926 Upper Midwest	Originally Posted by Seafire Originally Posted by 358WCF Originally Posted by Seafire Stumpy is like a tennis ball.... the harder you throw it at a brick wall, the faster it comes back at ya... He's harmless...10 pound of schitt in a 2 pound bag...but he manages his BS well with all things considering.. It ain't easy being Schtick, but that never deters him at all.... meth does that for people...makes em just don't care... Sigmond Freud would have loved to have Schtick as a patient....He's an entire clinical study onto himself... Kinda like Keith Moon of the Stones...the way he abused himself, he should have been dead 20 times over... As my grand dad use to say " Boy is tougher than a pine knot.." Toughest little Twinkie on the block...pepetually 15... mentally.. Keith Moon of the Stones? Damn Spell Check.... How in the hell can you misspell Richards, and it corrects that to MOON???? Friggin MicroSoft can't get anything straight! Damn Dope Smoking Liberal hippies!!! Keith Moon played 2nd trombone in Stan Kenton's Jazz Orchestra. Selmer "Daddy, can you sometime maybe please go shoot a water buffalo so we can have that for supper? Please? And can I come along? Does it taste like deer?" - my 3-year old daughter

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Re: Fast twist 220 swift Big Stick #18094994 02/03/23
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,752 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana
Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,752 Southern Oregon USA	Originally Posted by Big Stick A VERY Wise Man stated earlier: Hint. Now if only for conversation,a Retard Swift at 14" twist,with a 50gr at 4000fps,imparts 205,714 RPM onto the projectile. Hint. A 7" twist 223 SALAMI with a 50gr at 3500fps,imparts 360,000 RPM. Guess which flings Goo farther? Hint. Secondly,the faster it starts(lineal) velocity,the FASTER it slows. The 7" 223 knocks 94fps of impact velocity "advantage" at 225yds,from the Retard Swift to boot. Rotational velocity,don't have in a like manner,as those initial advntages never wane. Hint. I get it,that you gals don' shoot much and there's ZERO fhuqking reason to keep proving it,but it's FUNNIER than fhuqk that you are compelled to. Even with spell check and Politics "causing" it all. Hint. You Drooling CLUELESS Professional Victims are doing "GREAT!". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............... Translation in English: BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA BLABLABLA FART... Pass out... get humped by neighbor's pitbull again... "Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC “Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18095245 02/03/23
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,065 Hill Country W wbyfan1 Campfire Regular
wbyfan1 Campfire Regular W Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,065 Hill Country	Oh okay, so we're moving the goal post to try and make our point(as per usual)? Fact is Larry, when comparing apples to apples, a saami Swift will kick the dog sh#t out of any 223 at the distances the OP is planning to shoot. Physics are physics. Twist em' both at 7 and run a 51 gr Hammer at 4000 out of a Swift and 3500 from a .223... nets 411,428 RPM's to the Swift vs 360,000 for the 223!!! Doh!! That ought to be worth a little extra goo for the Swift, don't ya think?? 300 yd velocity...2585 for the Swift, 2221 for the 223. +364 for the Swift!! Ewww...even more goo!! Heck, go back and run a good 50 gr cup n core, twist the Swift at 8, the 223 at 7, RPM's are equal but the 220 still still arrives much quicker to the 300 yd line. Even more splatter factor, I reckon! More noise, more powder, more recoil...who GAF??!! Let the OP build what he wants. Maybe he wants a unique rifle/cartridge and not one like every other d-bag today sporting an AR/.223. The dude's got a stockpile of 220 Swift brass. Sounds like a good enough excuse to build one.

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18095499 02/03/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska	I shoot more than a few 8" and 7" RPM chamberings of Swift capacity,while you "get" to Google about it...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? If only for starters,Mono's do not and can not fling Goo like a cup/core. Hammers are a fhuqking joke to boot. Hint. There might be a reason I mentioned the Speedmire out of the gate and never in anything but 7" or 8". Hint. Pardon wares that simply exist. Hint. Fortnately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Big Stick #18100359 02/04/23
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,752 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana
Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,752 Southern Oregon USA	Aww The usual, "I got more schitt than you do argument" from our short little crosseyed bald buddy from up in Nowhere Alaska... Stumpy might be able to win arguments with the other drunks up on PoW Island... but when he tries to argue with smarter people than where he lives, who are also not sitting at their keyboard as drunk as he is.. entire conversation takes an entirely different path and outcome.. Sleep it off Stumpy.. you'll be better shape in the morning to spend all your time barking at the rest of the world over the internet once again.. Where drunks can always be bad ass heroes, to the feeble minded... "Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC “Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

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Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18101562 02/05/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska	Pardon wares that exist. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18101975 02/05/23
Joined: Dec 2022 Posts: 2,310 C Coyote10 Campfire Regular
Coyote10 Campfire Regular C Joined: Dec 2022 Posts: 2,310	Just build the fast twist swift. That sucker will hammer. You'll be plenty fast and have BC for miles. It will actually make a great deer rifle, and probably the best coyote slayer you've ever pulled the trigger on. Check out a 22-243 as well. You won't ever have to hold off fur inside 300 with an 80 grain berger. Either way, you'll be happy.

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18102223 02/05/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska	You ladies certainly don't shoot much,other than your mouths and Imaginations...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!? The Hornie 75 ELD has a better BC than the 80 Booger and just "happens" to go faster too. Hint. A 7" RPM Speedmire will crowd 3500fps with same,while allowing opportunity for 88's and 90 Beer Cans. Google as you MUST. Hint. Bless your poor poor(literally) hearts,for trying. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.................... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18103339 02/05/23
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas R rickt300 Campfire Outfitter
rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,401 Texas	Gee pardon me if I would rather run 90 grain bullets in a 6MM or better yet 100 gr. plus bullets in same. Dog I rescued in January

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18103422 02/05/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska	Rickety, Cite the "particulars" of said Goat Fhuqk...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Pardon wares that exist,while you "shoot" your Imagination and Pretend. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18103809 02/05/23
Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 1,652 R Riflehunter Campfire Regular
Riflehunter Campfire Regular R Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 1,652	Another option besides the .220 Swift, .220 Wilson-Arrow if you want a fast twist and heavy high bc projectiles is the .22-243 Middlestead. Feeds better and is faster than the .22 Creedmore, so less wind drift and more energy plus flatter trajectory, has a longer neck, easy to get brass for, 30 degree shoulder. Barrel life is slightly less than a Swift or .22 Creedmore.

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18103846 02/05/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska	SniffleKchunt, It's funnier than fhuqk,to grant you the opportunity to showcase your Google,as you have never seen or done ANY of it...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Pardon reality and wares that exist. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18103908 02/06/23
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,752 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana
Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,752 Southern Oregon USA	Isn't it nice in our society, that the cops don't break into peoples houses, and test blood alcohol levels, or drug toxicity levels while folks are typing away on their key boards, make up schitt as they go along? or how certain folks think they are better than everyone else... and you got to laugh at when they are so intoxicated that they accuse other people of 'shooting off their mouths' more than anything else, when the accuser is the most guilty guy in the crowd for doing the same as they accuse others of? Ain't easy being Schtick.... while: "Fhuqking LAUGHING!................." Pleasant dreams Grumpy Stumpy... "Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC “Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18103915 02/06/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska	Pardon wares that exist,as you "live" vicariously and think about me 24/7. Hint. Don't "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Big Stick #18104851 02/06/23
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,752 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana
Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,752 Southern Oregon USA	Originally Posted by Big Stick Pardon wares that exist,as you "live" vicariously and think about me 24/7. Hint. Don't "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................. Snicker.... sure Stumpy sure... its you dreaming, of others dreaming about your existence... Fhuqking LAUGHING!............... right back at ya Short Stuff... "Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC “Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18104902 02/06/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska	Keep reading my EVERY word and gawking EVERY Splendid Pixel,if only to escape being you for fleeting moments...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Pardon wares that exist,as you Dream aloud while polishing Bed Pans. Hint. Don't "forget",that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18106356 02/06/23
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,394 Utah Ackman Campfire Regular
Ackman Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,394 Utah	Originally Posted by Torqued Is anyone running around killing varmints with a fast twist 220 swift. If so tell me about the rifle. What is the twist rate What is the lightest bullets that it likes, as well as heavies ETC Thinking about having a lightweight swift built 99.8 % of all shots we have are inside of 225 yds with the biggest share less than 100. Don't see a need to pack a heavy barreled rifle around. For your purposes, for how you'll be using this - inside 225 and mostly <100 - you don't need or want fast twist and heavier high bc bullets. Completely unnecessary. You want to blow stuff up not pencil through. If you're set on a Swift, 12 or 14tw and 50/55 varmint bullettls doing 3800 - 4000 or so will demolish anything you hit at those close distances. Trajectory won't even be a factor. My 22-250AI's are in the same velocity neighborhood as a swift and have 14tw. barrels, work beautifully with 50's going fast. Hell, a 12-14tw .223AI will serve your purpose just fine at those ranges with a 40 at 4000/4100 and be a lot more barrel friendly.

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Big Stick #18106825 02/06/23
Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 1,652 R Riflehunter Campfire Regular
Riflehunter Campfire Regular R Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 1,652	Originally Posted by Big Stick Rickety, Cite the "particulars" of said Goat Fhuqk...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Pardon wares that exist,while you "shoot" your Imagination and Pretend. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............. Now do the same again, but set the calipers to 3.10" because of Remington 700 SA with extended box.

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Torqued #18106915 02/06/23
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,399 Paradise,Alaska	Acklady, Your Drooling Dumbfhuqktitude never disappoints...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Make the 223AI 7" and you'll have sumptin'.Google on,you CLUELESS Fhuqktard. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. SniffleKchunt, When you Imagine and Pretend something,how long does it take to become "Real" to you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Pardon wares that exist,as you DREAM aloud. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Fast twist 220 swift Big Stick #18106947 02/06/23
Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 1,652 R Riflehunter Campfire Regular
Riflehunter Campfire Regular R Joined: Aug 2021 Posts: 1,652	Originally Posted by Big Stick Acklady, Your Drooling Dumbfhuqktitude never disappoints...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Make the 223AI 7" and you'll have sumptin'.Google on,you CLUELESS Fhuqktard. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............. SniffleKchunt, When you Imagine and Pretend something,how long does it take to become "Real" to you...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Pardon wares that exist,as you DREAM aloud. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................ You lying piece of schidt, do the calipers at 3.1" for a Remington SA with extended box or even 3.08" for Model 70 short action box. And get rid of the Cheetah and replace with a Middlestead. Last edited by Riflehunter; 02/06/23.

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