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Maybe if you are shooting in the wind and the target folded itself just right:
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Don't leave out the old 1 shot... "three shot group" Yeah I've seen a few recently that were claimed to be 10 shot groups. I get that sometimes a bullet passes through the same hole with no evidence of it from a picture, but 3 or 4 Whoodini bullets in one group? I'm skeptical to say the least
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Don't leave out the old 1 shot... "three shot group" Yeah I've seen a few recently that were claimed to be 10 shot groups. I get that sometimes a bullet passes through the same hole with no evidence of it from a picture, but 3 or 4 Whoodini bullets in one group? I'm skeptical to say the least I shoot so many 1 hole 3 shot groups that it isn't even funny. Just about every time out it happens. They are part of a 5 or 10 shot group, but I've thought that it is senseless to walk down to the target, and pull it off the target board and interrupt a good 10 shot group. During load development with one of my AR10's. Here's the groups on each side of that charge weight: You guys that are skeptical can't shoot for fu ck or don't have very good rifles. The problem is you and your rifle can't shoot like that, so you are "skeptical". Fuggin laughing.. I feel the same way about a lot of targets I see here, only opposite. In that it's like: How the fu ck do you guys shoot like schidt?? Why is the group always way the fugg off the bulls eye??? There are all kinds of shooters, I guess.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I shoot so many 1 hole 3 shot groups that it isn't even funny. Just about every time out it happens. They are part of a 5 or 10 shot group, but I've thought that it is senseless to walk down to the target, and pull it off the target board and interrupt a good 10 shot group. During load development with one of my AR10's. Here's the groups on each side of that charge weight: You guys that are skeptical can't shoot for fu ck or don't have very good rifles. The problem is you and your rifle can't shoot like that, so you are "skeptical". Fuggin laughing.. I feel the same way about a lot of targets I see here, only opposite. In that it's like: How the fu ck do you guys shoot like schidt?? Why is the group always way the fugg off the bulls eye??? There are all kinds of shooters, I guess. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. I've seen some suspect stuff posted recently on other sites, that's all. Life's short, don't stress about it my friend.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I don't mind groups off bull. Shooting for groups and shooting to zero are separate often. No need to rezero when trying new loads.
Also there's an advantage to not shooting out your aiming point when really testing for accuracy.
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I don't enjoy shooting groups outside of development. Not even then really.
If you are a benchrester, or a competitor who shoots off rests, have at it.
Paper is boring, I like to see if I can hit stuff.
But I'm also the guy who would drive 40 miles to shoot skeet, got bored after a couple rounds and just pulled for the other guys. End of evening, they had 200 birds, I had 75-100.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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I try to shoot all my 100 yard groups at 50 yards. My ten-yard groups are the tightest, though.
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I don't mind groups off bull. Shooting for groups and shooting to zero are separate often. No need to rezero when trying new loads.
Also there's an advantage to not shooting out your aiming point when really testing for accuracy. Exactly! Can’t think of a BR shooter that shoots out his aiming point. GreggH
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Kimber.....A decent example of whatever
MOA Standard......it holds no water and is hardly a guarantee
Plus
Their test range is 50 yards I thought the 50 yard range was actually Cooper. Kimber too?
You only live once, but...if you do it right, once is enough.
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I don't mind groups off bull. Shooting for groups and shooting to zero are separate often. No need to rezero when trying new loads.
Also there's an advantage to not shooting out your aiming point when really testing for accuracy. I regularly don’t shoot poa. I often put together loads to try with different powders or bullet combos for a known accurate rifle just for fun. Most don’t hit poa as they aren’t zeroed for the same load I regularly shoot, but some end up being very accurate, some not so much.
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