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Did you ever wake up after a long drunk and step on some white round beads?

This is what is so ridiculous about these topics, there is little to no consensus, let alone knowledge.

So Christ’s attempts at miracles was to impress the Jews and not for healing those he healed?

How does a guy hanging on a cross pay for my sins? If you think about it, makes no sense at all.
Some dudes dad allows him to die so I can do bad [bleep]?
But wait, it’s a hoax, he really didn’t die. In 3 days he comes back to life.
Confusing at the least.

Like nitrogen fertilizer? Or that time I screwed up and bought the kids a sack of white marbles for their sling shot?

Most people like magic tricks regardless of
their own theological beliefs...and water into
wine at a wedding is not exactly a healing.



So Why would the holy spirit send so many mixed messages?

Messages aren’t what is mixed…

Don't be sidetracked, remember The Cross.

Is that what the holy spirit told you?

What’s your point, other than to stir the pot?

Not to mention the ethical implications of cursing the whole world because of a minor trangression by a naive couple....then, many thousands of years later, requiring a blood sacrifice in order to forgive what this very God is supposed to have set in motion. Divine Justice? Or bronze age stories?

I have not read any of the other posts, but as a Christian myself my response is, what fool would leave Christ?

I believe the scriptures. These 2 came to mind.

'There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. These are words of Peter addressed to the Jewish leaders as recorded in Acts 4:12.

John 6:66-68

66 After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him. 67 So Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you want to go away as well?” 68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life,

Confusing? Actually amazing, given the cost. Grace is like that. 😁

To be a sacrifice, Jesus would need to be burning in hell as we type.


Jesus and God are one in the same to many.

Wabi SW doesn’t understand the cross.

Before he can remember it and avoid being sidetracked he needs what is beautiful about the cross.

Will you explain it to him?

The Gospel could be true but possibly in a totally different way than any of us imagine. What if at the moment of death your whole life is recalled in total truth without you being able to BS yourself about your failures being someone else's fault. You might need to rely on a greater forgiveness and grace than yourself, so you don't create your own personal Hell to be locked in forever.

Until someone gives me proof that I need to worry about it, I need not worry about it.

Could be the whole thing was a setup to sort the skeptical from the gullible, and the atheists pass the test. Pity that the believers had to kill and oppress so many in the meantime.

One person's opinion is this.....No matter how hard you search, you will not find a single passage in the entire Bible that says anything about Jesus paying the penalty for our sins. That’s because this is a “Christian belief” that the Bible doesn’t teach. Rather, it was a theology created by humans.....

We are still responsible for what sins we commit, but by turning to Jesus, we now have a way to take that weight off of our shoulders. Jesus did die to save us from our sins, but it wasn't a moment that wiped us clean from all responsibility. Instead, the Bible says that Jesus came to take away our sins (John 1:29), so that we would no longer be sinners. Jesus' death showed us just how amazing God's love is for us. He gave us an opportunity to escape the evils of the world and be reunited with our Father in heaven. Jesus’ death paved that avenue for us.

Actually, yes, it is confusing. But at the same time clear enough for us, who aren't looking for a reason to reject God, to be saved from God's wrath. God tells us His ways are not our ways.

To question is not to reject. To question is to examine and consider likelihood.

That makes zero sense. Turn to Jesus for what?