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Doug class act, OP hateful jerk.

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OP could have approached the matter better and, in followup posts, not said some of things he said, BUT I commend him on wanting to do the best he can to avoid China. I take the same approach and am quite fine with spending multiples more for a given product to have it American made vs China. Having said that, to those that have bagged on him and made childish insults and stupid comments, what's wrong with him wanting to minimize support of China? What are you doing to minimize support of China? Just because it's "impossible" doesn't mean one shouldn't try. No, it's not always easy either. But, to me and others like me (OP is one), it's the right thing to do. I love the USA, but I don't love where we are. I know the part I'm doing is trivial at most, but it seems like I'm (again, OP, too) doing a lot more than many of you. If you're an American you should be ashamed of simply throwing your hands up, you're part of the problem. GTFO.

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Originally Posted by UncleAlps
Doug, can you clearly indicate Country of Origin for all your products.

Can you add a search filter to only show selected Countries?

I would greatly appreciate this. My wife purchased a set of binoculars several years ago for me after speaking with one of your sales people. It was a Japanese brand but they were marked made in China. I almost divorced my wife over this. Through them straight in the trash.

Please help identify this for all products or we will not make any more purchases.

Sincerely,

Alps

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Doug is a fantastic guy... The whole Cameraland group actually...

They try their ass off at helping folks.

They will ALWAYS have my support.

If a man hates China... blame that on .GOV and corporate greed... NOT RESELLERS like Cameraland.




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Originally Posted by ihookem
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Anybody here use Milwaukee tools?

Keep giving Chinky your $$ but don't buy a scope from them.

No I buy Dewalt and the ones that are assembled in the USA. .. That is as close as you are going to get , and that is why I dont buy Miwlaukee. Milwaukee is even owned by a Chinese guy. I know so , cause I knew the guy who was the chief engineer for the Lithium battery for Milwaukee. I still buy milwaukee electric sawmills and I think the last one was made in USA , if you can believe that. Like I said, if we work together and do all we can to avoid China , our country will be much better off instead of defending out purchases . There was a time when hunters and fisherman were fiercely loyal to American product. That seems to have went away. Just buy as little Chinese as you can . If we do, we will bring down the country. Many other countries are avoiding China too. It is working. About 20% of the young men in China are unemployed because the world sees them as a threat. Donald Trump was right.

Dewalt
https://www.allamericanmade.com/where-are-dewalt-tools-made/

Still from China, other places too but they have things built and use the parts.


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Originally Posted by UncleAlps
Anyone else want to answer for Doug?

Any other pro CCP dick weasels hiding in the straw pile?
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Originally Posted by ChrisAU
I know it’s a troll, but let’s talk about your wife buying you something and you throwing it in the trash and you almost divorcing her for it.

OP is a bigger piece of [bleep] than any China binos.


Bingo. Sounds like she should have divorced him over it if it really happened.


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If I was your wife, I'd buy you two sets of Made in the CCP binoculars next time and rejoice after the divorce.

Fuggin idiot, it amazes me at how lazy people have become that a few minutes of googling on the porcelain throne wouldn't supply the answer.

Why'd you wait several years to bitch about it? I doubt that any binoculars/product was purchased from Cameralandny.com by anyone in your household.


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Originally Posted by micky
Originally Posted by ihookem
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Anybody here use Milwaukee tools?

Keep giving Chinky your $$ but don't buy a scope from them.

No I buy Dewalt and the ones that are assembled in the USA. .. That is as close as you are going to get , and that is why I dont buy Miwlaukee. Milwaukee is even owned by a Chinese guy. I know so , cause I knew the guy who was the chief engineer for the Lithium battery for Milwaukee. I still buy milwaukee electric sawmills and I think the last one was made in USA , if you can believe that. Like I said, if we work together and do all we can to avoid China , our country will be much better off instead of defending out purchases . There was a time when hunters and fisherman were fiercely loyal to American product. That seems to have went away. Just buy as little Chinese as you can . If we do, we will bring down the country. Many other countries are avoiding China too. It is working. About 20% of the young men in China are unemployed because the world sees them as a threat. Donald Trump was right.

Dewalt
https://www.allamericanmade.com/where-are-dewalt-tools-made/

Still from China, other places too but they have things built and use the parts.

Dewalt was purchased by Black and Decker about 15 years ago along with Porter Cable


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Why not just return the binoculars instead of trashing them and threatening to divorce the wife? A little drastic considering all the great thing I've heard about dealings with Doug. He probably would have made things right. Seems like the OP just wants to be a little drama queen.

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I just assume if the place of manufacture isn't listed, it's Chinese.
Safe bet the last decade or two.

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I guess some folks are too dumb to look stuff up for them selves.


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I find it interesting that anything in the optics forum made in China gets called out big time, but in all the generator threads everyone spews loving and glowing reviews of their Harbor Freight Chi-com units, without anyone protesting at all.

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Originally Posted by WYcoyote
I find it interesting that anything in the optics forum made in China gets called out big time, but in all the generator threads everyone spews loving and glowing reviews of their Harbor Freight Chi-com units, without anyone protesting at all.

Cost of HF gen vs Honda?

Cost of CCP scope vs closest Non-CCP competition?

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Originally Posted by ihookem
Thanks Doug for the info. As for me , I look at everything I buy to see where it's made. There are times I walk away and find a different way to get the job done. It is amazing how much is out there that is not Chinese. I pay more for it , but so many times you get the same quality for the same, a little more or little less. As for looking to see where everything is made, I have noticed huge amounts of product that is not made in China anymore that used to be. I even bought a skills blade made in USA. I can't remember the last time I saw that. The red ones were Italy,,, so be it, but the last one was USA. There is little doubt China hates us , and would love nothing more than to se us destroy ourselves and our freedoms. I will gladly not use a scope anymore and go back to iron or peep sights. Half my deer were shot with iron and peep sights. Or, I can just keep using my 35 yr. old Leupold 4x12 .. it is getting foggy though. I heard two times now that Mexico can make a product cheaper than China. I would love to buy from a neighbor . Central America and Africa is going to be the new China . I even bought into a Brazil ETF ( EWZ Ticker) . Pays 11% dives so I think we will take back market share and give to central America . Tons of stuff coming from very poor countries, like Haiti , Philippines, ETC. Better than China all day long.

Best and most thoughtful post on this entire wreck of a thread........


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Doug and the guys at Cameraland have always been class acts. Anyone that’s too lazy to do their own research about a product deserves what they get.

The hypocrisy of owning or having Chinese products knows no bounds…

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The consumer is responsible for researching his/her purchase.
With the web, it doesn't take much effort.
Yet people still complain.


Doug and the gang at Camerland answer PM's and phones.
Doesn't get any more simple than that.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by WYcoyote
I find it interesting that anything in the optics forum made in China gets called out big time, but in all the generator threads everyone spews loving and glowing reviews of their Harbor Freight Chi-com units, without anyone protesting at all.

Cost of HF gen vs Honda?

Cost of CCP scope vs closest Non-CCP competition?

Flushed out a Chi-com lover?

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Originally Posted by WYcoyote
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by WYcoyote
I find it interesting that anything in the optics forum made in China gets called out big time, but in all the generator threads everyone spews loving and glowing reviews of their Harbor Freight Chi-com units, without anyone protesting at all.

Cost of HF gen vs Honda?

Cost of CCP scope vs closest Non-CCP competition?

Flushed out a Chi-com lover?

If you haven't noticed yet, that moron talks out of both sides of his mouth. Chinese cellphones are fine by him because there's few options. Chinese optics are bad. Now apparently if the cost savings is high enough, Chinese generators are fine.

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Originally Posted by UncleAlps
I almost divorced my wife over this. Through them straight in the trash.


Sincerely,

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