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What does one in 300 Savage weigh (no scope)?

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An EG is about 8 pounds. Never had an F, so no clue there.

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I had no idea that the ‘50’s era F’s were only made for four years! I went to a collector show looking for something for the kid to use and saw a guy walking the show with a mint condition ‘57 99 over his shoulder and when I ran into him again three isles over, I remarked that he had a nice EG there. He said that it wasn’t an EG, but an F. I really wanted a .308, but this one was a .300. Darn. Okay, I reluctantly gave the guy the $380. that he wanted for the rifle. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and again.
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Originally Posted by Windfall
I had no idea that the ‘50’s era F’s were only made for four years!
Technically 5 years - 1955 to 1959. But the first year was 300 Savage and 250-3000 only, the 243/308/358 was 4 years from '56 to '59.


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These are F’s except for rifle on bottom. I got one, then others have showed up




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So, if "EG" stands for "Economy G", what does "F" stand for? "Freakin'" good?


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Eight pounds?????


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Originally Posted by RAM
Eight pounds?????

Is that a question? Use your words. You normally have plenty. grin

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Let's get back to reality. The F 'Featherweight' model is advertised at 6-1/2 pounds.

The EG is 7-1/4 pounds.

Is that a huge difference? Depends on your personal point of view. I think the advertised weight of both is light compared to actual measurements I've made.

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Equally, or more, important than weight is balance IMO.


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Agreed. In a stand I'm fine with the EG cause I like long barrels.

Beating the brush I want to be carrying an F.

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Originally Posted by RAM
Eight pounds?????

Sorry... 7-11oz with a Marble's tang sight on it. Minutiae isn't my forte, hence the "about" 😉

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Equally, or more, important than weight is balance IMO.

Agreed. I like the EG, but the old 1899A SR feels better balanced to me. The other EG I had the rebarrel done on shoots fantastic, but feels like I have a brick hanging off the muzzle now.

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Originally Posted by Lightfoot
Agreed. In a stand I'm fine with the EG cause I like long barrels.

Beating the brush I want to be carrying an F.
That's why they made 99T's. grin


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
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The EG got factory drilling for scope mounts sometime after 1955/56. I had a circa-1957 EG that was so it happened sometime before that.
Late 1954, actually.

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Originally Posted by Lightfoot
Let's get back to reality. The F 'Featherweight' model is advertised at 6-1/2 pounds.

The EG is 7-1/4 pounds.

Is that a huge difference? Depends on your personal point of view. I think the advertised weight of both is light compared to actual measurements I've made.

Obviously that sort of weight wasn’t a issue with guys who packed Model 70 Winchesters. Winchester sold the snot out of those rifles. I’ve never owned one, but the standard weight rifles I’ve held certainly felt heavier than what the EG could have amounted too. Maybe 99 guys just don’t like heavy rifles. Maybe that’s why the post-war R never really seems to come up on anybodies list of favorite 99s.


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I love me some post war Rs! Most accurate 99s I've owned. Lot's of fun at the range. Definitely not a brush gun though.

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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
My take: the 99 was/is an excellent hunting rifle, certainly in the top ten of all time. But, where it really shines is in the hands of the hunter who doesn't sit on his butt in a tree stand or a blind all day, the guy who covers some territory while seeking Br'er Whitetail. Some are better than others in that regard, especially if unencumbered with optics (my all-time fave is the aperture sighted M1899H, I wouldn't have done it with a scoped R). The butt hunters are served well with a lot of other choices too, which for that purpose may well outshine the 99. The 99 had a lot of thought go into it to make it a companionable tool for the still hunter, who was the most common guy in the woods back then.

I wonder if it would enjoy the same popularity if it were freshly introduced today, in an age when few guys roam the woods for miles and to whom the ideal deer rifle is a scoped high velocity bolt gun? (And those same guys who when they do strike off on foot insist on lugging those same rifles.) The same could be said for the M94 and 336. Mind you, I'm speaking to what I've observed here in the jungles of northern Appalachia, and hypothesizing about if none of these light ergonomic lever guns had never before existed but all of a sudden appeared now.

Just food for thought. Let's nobody get their panties twisted in a knot!
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HAHAHAHA just one for hunting you are in for a rude awakening the 99 flu has no vaccine no treatment no turning back
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Late to the conversation, and a newbie to boot......but loved the topic and the comments. Would add that I really like the model F in 300 Savage for hogs as well. Quick to point and shoot, and shoot again, (and maybe again), and a great caliber to load for those critters.

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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
My take: the 99 was/is an excellent hunting rifle, certainly in the top ten of all time. But, where it really shines is in the hands of the hunter who doesn't sit on his butt in a tree stand or a blind all day, the guy who covers some territory while seeking Br'er Whitetail. Some are better than others in that regard, especially if unencumbered with optics (my all-time fave is the aperture sighted M1899H, I wouldn't have done it with a scoped R). The butt hunters are served well with a lot of other choices too, which for that purpose may well outshine the 99. The 99 had a lot of thought go into it to make it a companionable tool for the still hunter, who was the most common guy in the woods back then.

I wonder if it would enjoy the same popularity if it were freshly introduced today, in an age when few guys roam the woods for miles and to whom the ideal deer rifle is a scoped high velocity bolt gun? (And those same guys who when they do strike off on foot insist on lugging those same rifles.) The same could be said for the M94 and 336. Mind you, I'm speaking to what I've observed here in the jungles of northern Appalachia, and hypothesizing about if none of these light ergonomic lever guns had never before existed but all of a sudden appeared now.

Just food for thought. Let's nobody get their panties twisted in a knot!

Amen. I'm a still hunter and a tracker, I simply don't have the patience to sit on the side of a tree all season, or worse, in a heated blind as guys do it here, nor hunt literally the same spot all season long. I'm not even sure i'd call this "hunting". You're certainly a predator, no argument there, an ambush predator, a rattlesnake versus a wolf. Which can be very effective - more effective then tracking for a lot of people. I just wanna cover some country and see what's over the next ridge, see where a big track takes me, and if i play the game skillfully enough and have the right luck i'd like a good story to go with the kill/trophy. I've taken in recent years to hunting the effectively limitless public woods of the Rocky Mountain east slopes foothills. There is lots of hunting pressure but it ends within 100 yards of a road/quad-trail, i have yet to see a single other hunter's tracks in the many miles of tracking i do. They're almost all limiting themselves to where they can get a vehicle. I doubt the 99's would enjoy the same popularity now that they did even if the guys did roam the woods, however. Out here there is no gun that's not a bolt gun in .300 winmag or 6.5 creedmore. In New England of course there's still more of a tradition of old school hunting. Many of them favor Remington pumps and i have two of those i carry in the woods, both 50's vintage and one in .300 Savage. The only edge they have on the 99 as a woods gun is they cycle more slick, so much so you don't even notice - like glass, that slide. However, i just picked up a 99 Model F in .308 for reasons of better ammo availability - $875 and a calibre i also feel comfortable with if an elk happens by. My first F, and im thinking this thing is going to be a superb tracking gun. I lucked into my preferred year of F - a '61 in very good condition with the gold trigger and dark, well above average figured walnut - i like the way the gold trigger trades accent with the brass counter window if you keep the counter polished. Really nice touch to my eye, i refinished the gun this past week and it looks fabulous, almost pristine. I can't believe how effortlessly it shoulders with it's slightly reduced proportions. Putting a Skinner ghost ring on it and looking forward to taking to the big woods with it next year. It will share duty with my Remingtons. In general i don't think hunters have the same eye for aesthetics in guns they used to. Witness all the guys out there content to carry a hunk of tacky looking plastic into the woods. So aside from the bolt-action fetish, there's a general decline in taste working against the 99. If there were not, the ones available at resale i think would be going for a lot more money. I honestly can't believe i got this old beauty for $875. Nor my Model R 15 years ago - which also has even more exceptional walnut - for $375, a real tack-driver using the lyman tang peep it came with, though heavy to lug as the miles add up.

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