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Anyone using this powder? What is it being loaded in? Temp sensitive? Bought 8 lbs to try in 30 06. Are best results with 165 or 180 grain bullets?
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Some of us were just talking about this powder in another thread. It has been great in my 6.5 creedmoor's and 6.5x55. I've also used it in 30-06. I tried it in a new rifle just the other day. Getting some decent results, but kind of sporadic as well. When double checking loads, I would get one group at .6" and the next with the same charge wt would be 1.1". Kind of fluctuating a little more than I like to see. That was with the Hornady 180gr SST, which I've never experimented with either. Groups at 400 were sub moa and others at 1.5 moa. Kind of hit and miss.. Not used to that, so I am thinking about trying a different powder. Maybe a more tried and true H4350.. I also tried it in my 7mm08 with 150gr Nosler partitions. Works very well for that application. If you haven't looked at the PDF of Western powders load data, download it and print it off. it has some damn good information in it. I look through it a lot..
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I found a good load in my 30-06 with 165gr bullets.I used Win. cases,WLRM primers,load was 59.5grs of Hunter.I found I really liked it in my 300 Win Mags.73.5grs with 180's and 71.0grs with 200gr bullets.
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I’ve been playing with it lately in .243 Win. The rifle was my dad’s Rem 742, and it likes 100 gr Rem Corlokts factory loads, but I’m using with with 95 gr BT’s and the Hunter now and getting decent groups. I’m also using it in .260 Rem and 6.5 CM
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I found a good load in my 30-06 with 165gr bullets.I used Win. cases,WLRM primers,load was 59.5grs of Hunter.I found I really liked it in my 300 Win Mags.73.5grs with 180's and 71.0grs with 200gr bullets. That's good info. I think next time I mess with it in my 30-06, I'll try some magnum primers.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I found a good load in my 30-06 with 165gr bullets.I used Win. cases,WLRM primers,load was 59.5grs of Hunter.I found I really liked it in my 300 Win Mags.73.5grs with 180's and 71.0grs with 200gr bullets. Any idea of velocity on the 06?
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I found a good load in my 30-06 with 165gr bullets.I used Win. cases,WLRM primers,load was 59.5grs of Hunter.I found I really liked it in my 300 Win Mags.73.5grs with 180's and 71.0grs with 200gr bullets. Any idea of velocity on the 06? A little over 2900fps.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............
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I found a good load in my 30-06 with 165gr bullets.I used Win. cases,WLRM primers,load was 59.5grs of Hunter.I found I really liked it in my 300 Win Mags.73.5grs with 180's and 71.0grs with 200gr bullets. Any idea of velocity on the 06? A little over 2900fps. Thanks! Nothing wrong with that
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I've loaded as high as 60.0grs with a 168gr bullet.The load data shows you might even be able to go a little higher,maybe a grain or so.Hunter is a little slower on the burnrate scale than the 4350 powders.I'd put it right there with IMR-4831.Here is Western Powder's load data. https://ramshot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/WesternPowdersHandloadingGuide8.0_WEB.pdf
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............
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Appreciate the info! Going to try some Sierra Gamechanger 165s and Hornady 178 ELD Xs in the 06 with this powder. Might give it a go in a 6.5-06 also.
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I've used it in the 6.5 Creedmoor with 130 and 140 grain bullets and in the .243 with 95 and 100 grain bullets and it works quite well for those loads. According to Mule Deer, it is somewhat temperature sensitive (more so than Big Game) so it might not be a good choice for really cold weather use.
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As BSA mentioned, just talked about in another thread. But in the 06. It’s my go to with 180s. My 168s get the big game. Another great powder for the lighter bullets. The 180s Sierra game kings with 59.5 gr of hunter pushed them 2860-2898 fps, Base to ogive 2.700….It’s a stout load getting to factory 300 mag loads.
It is also my go to powder I use in 270 win. Very consistent. 140 SST can be over 3100. But I stick with accuracy at 3050
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H4350 has always been my go-to powder for 30-06 and 6.5CM. But a few years ago my supply of H4350 got very low and I couldn't find any. I could find Ramshot HUnter and gave it a try. Initial results were very good. But about that time H4350 became available and I stopped load development and went back to established loads with H4350. But based on my initial results I'd feel very good about using it.
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It’s all I use in the 30-06. 178 gr ELD-X, 180 AB and PT, 185 VLD Hunting.
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It’s all I use in the 30-06. 178 gr ELD-X, 180 AB and PT, 185 VLD Hunting.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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A great powder, one of my top ones in 270 Win. I just loaded some with 178 ELDX's in the '06 but haven't had the chance to get out and fire them yet.
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Gives good groups in my 270 Win with Hornady 130gr. Little more velocity than Staball 6.5
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A great powder, one of my top ones in 270 Win. I just loaded some with 178 ELDX's in the '06 but haven't had the chance to get out and fire them yet. Let us know how it does in that 06, when you get a chance to shoot them. I was thinking about trying those bullets next. Probably colder than a sumb itch over there right now.
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Tried Hunter.
I got better velocity with BG.
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Tried Hunter.
I got better velocity with BG. Like you kept telling another poster here in another thread, "stop thinking about energy"!!! i could care the fu ck less about top speeds, as long as the load is consistently accurate. My hunting rifles use scopes with ballistic type reticles, or dials I trust. You shoot a 7mm08 a lot and have made some nice long shots on big critters. That is commendable. But if one load is 50-100 fps slower and shoots better, I'm going to use the one that is considerably more accurate/precise. That load above with the measly ol 150 partition flies very well out to 400 yards. That's not far, but like I've said, that is what I've tested it to. Many times. It will easily and consistently make kills out to that range. No problems whatsoever, and that is with a cheap (but proven) Burris FFII 3-9x40. As for your loading style, I've said this before, but it is borderline reckless. You like starting out at top book loads and then adjust OAL to find a decent load, where I "WORK UP" and find loads by means of OCW. Most times keeping bullets at a reliable .020" off the lands. That is the safe way to develop loads. It is funny how you kept telling one poster over and over again, don't worry about "energy", yet you continually focus on high speeds. That schidt just doesn't compute...
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