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I know this topic has been discussed. But my own thoughts and questions:

Looking at the published numbers for the past two general elections. Donald Trump got 11 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. So, after you subtract all of the disenfranchised Republicans who were tired of Trump after 4 years, his voter base of 63M (from 2016) shrinks to some smaller number, right? So, in 2020, he got 74M votes. Where did the more than 11M votes come from? Using published numbers here, so cheating should be out of the question.

I truly cannot explain this. Can anyone help me out here? Would particularly like to hear from some of our longtime Republican voters who are are sick of Trump, and think we should move on. What do we do, going forward to capture the vote of the 11M+ republicans who voted for Trump in 2020 but not in 2016?

This group is very important going forward, what do we do to keep their votes?

Thanks!

When a president does positive things for the country they get votes for reelection from people that didn’t vote for them the first time they ran. Trump had record support in what should have been a landslide!

Three groups here, I think. A base (group 1) which voted for Trump both elections, a group (group 2) which voted for Trump in 2016 but not in 2020, and then (group 3).

(Group 3) = (Group 2) + 11M

Right?

Between Group 2 and 3, which should be more important going forward, for the Republicans?

Agree!

If you look at your own Question and others do as well.

Does it or Does it not show and or prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was something very strange and fishy going on in the 2020 vote.

And that Fishy smell you are smelling is of rancid very rancid fish..

Just think
we only have until 2024 until they do it again.

You could blame some of it on population growth….but not 11 million.

If the real numbers were known it would be 20 -30+ million more votes

President Trump was the first President that was 100% pro America. He created more jobs and wealth, lowered taxes, made China heel, was on the verge of stopping all illegal border crossing, exposed Deep State, exposed MSM, exposed democrat corruption. Lowest unemployment in history for all races, lowest gas prices, energy independence, etc etc etc.... everything he did was with America First in mind.

That is why he gained more votes! That is why it took so many days after voting closed on November 3rd for the system to generate enough votes for Biden to be installed!

This.

In every possible way, it was an obvious and blatant steal.

""Published"" numbers ? What do we do going forward to capture the vote?
GET BACK TO FAIR ELECTIONS
NO MAIL IN BALLOTS
NO DOMINION OR ANY OTHER "MACHINES" THAT CAN SWITCH VOTES
NO OMG WE HAVE A PLUMBING LEAK
NO TAKING DAY AFTER DAY TO COUNT VOTES
ANY STRONG ARMING, COVERED WINDOWS > MANDATORY IMMEDIATE JAIL/PRISON TIME.

So, who is, "Going to put the bell on the cat?"

Maybe, just maybe there was not as many disenfranchised voters as the bolshevik media would lead you to believe.

Probably a lot of people that don’t normally vote inspired to do so by his awesomeness.
MAGA

Agreed. This is what does make the most sense to me: a crooked election, with most Democrat and Republican politicians being complicit, or at least turning a blind eye. In addition to a media willing to follow a government narrative to explain it away to the citizens.

But for the sake of discussion. I’m trying to highlight two things.

First, If the numbers we’ve been given are legitimate
Then it’s really hard to explain a huge chunk of R voters abandoning Trump in 2020, without acknowledging a much larger group which DID show up for him in 2020.

Second, if it’s truly all on the level, and can be reconciled sensibly, then why isn’t any of the discussion of the future geared towards keeping that group? It’s all about getting back the ones we lost.

You can get the disenfranchised and 75% of the lefties, 85-90% can vote Trump. If the powers that be want nikki haley as president then that's who will be president.
Give them enough time and ballots they'll install who they want. They know nobody is going to oppose them - so why not.

Yep! and unless something changes the Demonrats will manufacture enough votes in 24 to win again. No matter who they run.

The right has to get better at beating them at their own game. That fair shiite is like fighting, everything is fair. It doesn't matter how you play the game, it's if you win or lose.

Like AKRange says , the time for playing games is over. We're playing for keeps now.

The real question is how one can get 81M votes and lose 18 of 19 bellwether counties. It was a monumental FRAUD.

In my state Trump was ahead by 650,000 votes when their polls closed at 8pm. Do you actually believe Biden overcame that deficit with mail in ballots? Keep in mind 650,000 votes is 5% of the total population of Pennsylvania.

No other way that I can come up with. Massive fraud.

I can explain it.

It's called cheating.

Lunatic authoritarian commies will do and say anything to maintain power.

Cheating is nothing for them.

Thanks all for your input.

I was really hoping to hear from the large handful of members here who hold Trump accountable for losing voters because of his antics and personality. And from those, who want us to back someone else for president next time, someone who can bring in the lost voters and retain the new ones.

I'm curious on their opinion of the groups of voters I outlined above, and which voters we need to focus on.