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Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.com"Comparison is the thief of joy." - Teddy Roosevelt. Member - Outdoor Writers of Canada
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I'd love to see some pics of how you make these... amazing
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I can do that, but it will take a few posts. Anyone can make this type of bullet. No fancy equipment or hydraulic press is needed. It’s an aspect of the shooting hobby that’s always been around but is not popular. You can make bullets for pennies a shot, even today. A Short HistoryDuring World War Two, the metals used to make bullet jackets – copper and zinc – were in short supply. The man who would go on to found Speer Bullet Company, Vernon Speer, figured out a way to recycle 22 rimfire cases and substitute them for traditional gilding metal. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/gZRg0Hv.jpg) Since then, shooters have been able to create their own at home. The process is straightforward and easily learned. In fact, many of today’s custom bullet businesses started in someone’s basement or hobby room. Even today, with none of the problems of wartime shortages, the fascination with making homemade bullets still attracts the do-it-yourselfer. Some hobbyists – especially cowboy action and handgun shooters – like to create their own lead bullets by casting. Users of jacketed bullets can do this too. Making jacketed bullets is certainly cheaper than buying them ready made from a store, but there is a trade off. You swap the money saved for your own time and labour. Some people believe that it is dangerous to cast your own bullets or cast your own bullet cores. You have to melt the lead which means heat and hazardous fumes. A safer alternative to this is swaging. Swaging is the term used to describe shaping lead into bullets under pressure. There are no high temperatures or fumes because the metal is cold formed. In many cases, you can use a standard reloading press or step up and get a special bench mounted press specifically designed for the job. I'll show that in another post. Making jacketed bullets from 22 rimfire cases is certainly a niche area but is very rewarding. Like handloading, there is a real satisfaction when using your own creations to shoot targets or take game. It’s more rewarding than buying a box of bullets at the store. The Difference between Commercial and Rimfire JacketsCommercial hunting bullets use tapered jackets. The wall gets progressively thicker as you go from the tip to the base. When you make jackets from 22 rimfire cases however, the wall thickness is constant. They are approximately 10 thousandths of an inch thick from top to bottom. Thinly jacketed bullets are excellent for varmint hunters because they expand quite rapidly. For this reason, the maximum recommended muzzle velocity should not exceed 3200 fps (some say 3000 fps). Push them any faster and the bullets fly apart when they leave the barrel. This is more of a problem these days because of faster twist barrels. For 55 to 65 grain weights shot from a 222 or 223 Remington though, this is usually not a concern. I can break it down into core making, jacket forming, bullet assembly and targets. Core MakingCup and core bullets are made of a jacket and a lead core. I make cores from extruded lead wire. I cut them to a short length - approximately 3 grains more than the finished weight - and then put in a core forming die. This makes them perfectly cylindrical and they weigh the same. If you look at the base of the die, you can see extruded lead that has bled off. Because lead is very dense and swaged into an area inside of the die, the cores come out very close to the same weight. The bottom picture is a core mold. I have also tried melting lead and pouring it into a core making mold, but it is easier to cut lead wire. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/vhI8HIw.jpg) ... ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/GHI68ZF.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/5PIiA7r.jpg) ... ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/YOnTbQP.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/8bmLn3g.jpg)
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Jacket Making![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/sFyRXzb.jpg) Commercial jackets come ready to use. They’re shipped in plastic bags, buckets, or in heavy cardboard boxes. 22 rimfire cases that will be made into bullet jackets have to be cleaned, lubricated and their rims unfolded. You can always spot jackets made from rimfire cases. They have the ammunition maker’s stamp on the bottom. I get jackets from one of the clubs of which I am a member. I buy these buckets and the money goes to our junior shooters. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/tWMmrQx.jpg) ... ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/GLVtCSO.jpg) Unfolding the rim is accomplished using a jacket making die. The case is pushed through the die from the bottom using a punch. When it comes out the top, the rim is unfolded and you have a case! Above is a picture of a jacket making die mounted on an Rock Chucker press. I have a pneumatic version that is a lot easier on my arm. Whether they are formed with a manual or pneumatic press, all the cases emerge as nice jackets that look like little brass drinking tumblers. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/nMZ7LJv.jpg) One thing I should mention. Before you actually make the jackets, they have to be cleaned. The crud that is leftover after the primer composition burns has to be removed. It is abrasive and hard on the punch. It also helps to sort the case by headstamp. Below is my sorting set up. I toss them into dollar store plastic containers. When the container is full, I toss them in an ultrasonic cleaner. I use the ultrasonic cleaner a second time, after the jacket is formed. Sorting by headstamp, and two ultrasonic baths, tightens up the groups. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Bmkexws.jpg)
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Bullet AssemblyWith a cup and core bullet, it is simply a matter of placing the formed core into the rimfire jacket and squeezing the two together. Here's a picture of the four assembly stages but with a commercial jacket. There are three dies that make these into a finished bullet. 1. You slide the finished core into a jacket. The outside of the jacket is greased so that it will not stick in the die. The picture on the right shows 200 bullets waiting for step two. That is, seating the core under pressure. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/HGiOdv4.jpg) ... ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/4v6Gf6q.jpg) 2. The bullet ram is raised and in conjunction with the punch, pushes into the jacket and seats the core. A couple of things happen. First, thousands of pounds of pressure are exerted onto the lead and jacket. As a result, the bullet swells slightly, almost to the finished diameter of the bullet. The second is that the lead core sits below the end of the bullet jacket. This will help for the third step when the point is formed. 3. After coming out of the core seater, they go into the second die which forms the point. PF (point forming) dies can be ordered with different ogives to create everything from an RN to an ELD. 4. For my bullets, I use a third die called a tip former. Looking at the above picture, the TF die smooths the lead over and finishes the tip. In this case, a modified protected point. The above bullets are .314s, but all the dies work the same way. Once the bullet comes out of the TF die, it is ready to reload. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/opLfb4l.jpg) This is my bullet bench. The first press on the left, is set up to produce bullet cores. The middle press is for core seating and/or jacket making. The bottle catches the finished rimfire jackets. The third, for point forming and tip forming. --- NoteFor OT (open tip) target bullets or HPs, the lead does not extrude past the tip after point forming. A different punch is used which keeps the tip a precise diameter. In the case of the HP punch, it also presses slightly into the top of the lead to form a hollow point in the lead. There is no tip forming die, so the process is faster because only two dies are needed. www.corbins.com and www.rceco.com produce dies and equipment for people who want to make their own jacketed bullets. Corbins was originally formed by brothers Dave and Richard Corbin. Richard left the company and started his own - rceco. Dave recently sold corbins.com. Both are older fellows, so it's time for the next generation to take over. This last picture is an RN 65 grain bullet I designed, loaded into into a 223. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/vUf2UOH.jpg)
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This is what polished bullets made from rimfire cases look like. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/7jVGZuw.jpg) ... ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/cqzrlIm.jpg) Here are some 60 grain homemade bullet groups. They can shoot. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/W1WO5TD.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/KHfz7Fz.jpg) ... ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/3u3njMj.jpg)
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As requested: Two close up bullet pix. 65 gr. side view headstamp
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Thanks, interesting post!
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Thanks, interesting post! My pleasure. And thanks to everyone who has emailed and PMed.
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