I just returned from WI where my girlfriend and I went to hunt with an old buddy. Great fun all the way around, but the best was when my buddy had two does DRT with one shot from his Ruger #1 45-70 shooting Hornady Leverevolution ammo. It was very empressive; although he admits the second doe wasn't on purpose. I may have to change my mind about Rugers, 45-70's, and factory ammo.