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All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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You can actually lose money doing this, people dont do the math. Cash isnt allows if ever the cheaper price on a new vehicle. Finance with them at a low rate, because your credit is good, take all the incentives/cash back offers because you did, pay it off over the next few months. Can save you thousands...but I guess that's not as cool as telling someone you paid cash. Meanwhile, you just dropped 75k in cash all at once, while leaving money on the table, on a depreciating asset...but to each his own. You haven’t been buying $75,000.00 trucks recently. There are no discounts on them for credit or any other reason. Right now you won’t lose anything buying a truck with cash… I dont entirely agree, I'm starting to see those incentive commercials again, plus that 75k truck was 55k 2-3 years ago. I'd say you are losing 20k right off the bat. It isn’t happening. The incentives are for the light 1500 size trucks. $75,000.00 trucks are 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.. There are small ones on the 3500, didn't check on the 2500. The comment to nullify the fact that there aren’t any incentives on $75,000.00 trucks was made that you can save “thousands” by financing. That just isn’t true, but it seems that the need to overturn the truth of the lack of incentives trumps the fact that there just aren’t those incentives…
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Campfire Ranger
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Paid $2,800 for my first new Ford Pick-up, back when I was making right at 12k a year, a factor of 4.29. For a $75,000 today I'd need to make close to 322,000 a year. Of course, it doesn't work that way because that doesn't take into account increased cost to manufacture, or all the current luxury's they refuse to build without today. If they would build one with just the basics, might be able to get it down to around 30k, but then no one would buy it.
Phil Phil, that’s a good point. Not many these days want a single cab, bench seat, four on the floor, or three on the tree, rubber coated chains to hold up the tail gate, AM push button radio, mechanical ignition key, 14” tires with painted hub caps, crank windows…….. No, I disagree. I think that people would buy it. The automotive industry is the leader in building what they want to sell, not what people want. Where does that idea come from? Check what the EPA standards are for overall mileage of the vehicles produced, have to average. You can’t just build 4X4 trucks or sports cars. There is a balance required to meet EPA standards and the car companies have to comply. Any business selling goods to a consumer has to produce what is wanted until the Federal Government steps in and mandates quotas. Like it or not, auto manufacturers are scrutinized and forced to comply to a set of restrictions that doesn’t make sense in a truly free market…
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Campfire 'Bwana
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The government requires plush interiors and home entertainment sound systems?
Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.
Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe)
Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.
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The government requires plush interiors and home entertainment sound systems? That is what people want. Holee $hit, stupid runs deep here…
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Campfire Kahuna
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Not me!
I don't like nice things.
I am MAGA.
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Not me!
I don't like nice things. The majority here doesn’t want it either, but I they cannot figure out that expensive trucks are being sold to people that want them. I have yet to see a dealership with a client being forced to buy an expensive truck…
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
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Magpies don't collect dull objects.
I am MAGA.
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Not me!
I don't like nice things. The majority here doesn’t want it either, but I they cannot figure out that expensive trucks are being sold to people that want them. I have yet to see a dealership with a client being forced to buy an expensive truck… Locally it seems that the "car dealers" that go under, and I mean under, not moved locations - the independent guys selling vehicles in that cheap price range. You know the type "All cars 9999.99 and under. Buy here, pay here" It's not the garagemahal's going under.
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That's well over twice what I paid for 100 acres of good farm land over 40 years ago. What's the truck going to be worth in 2063? Like W.C. Fields said- - - -"It's morally wrong to let a sucker keep any money!" Are you saying your bought tillable farm ground in the 80s for $400 an acre?????
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Fburgtx: None for me!
My one owner (me!) 1996 Dodge diesel 4x4 extended cab five speed is running strong as a mo-fo and only has 125,000 miles on it.
I am now surmising that this truck will be my last.
IIRC that truck cost me $27,000.00?
Hold into the wind
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Campfire 'Bwana
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The government requires plush interiors and home entertainment sound systems? That is what people want. Holee $hit, stupid runs deep here… Not this people - because I am deep in stupid.
Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.
Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe)
Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I could have bought a new pickup to replace my 2003 but decided that we'd be better off making a large principle payment on rental house loan.
And I'm still thinking about buying a $25k stock trailer(partly for 2023 tax purposes).
Not the funnest or flashiest way to roll but makes more sense.
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Campfire Kahuna
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I'll think given the inflation we have. and getting worse, that will sound cheap in a couple years.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
"May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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$75,000? Where do you find them that cheap? Yep, my 2016 Platinum Super Duty was 66K and well within reach of our first house's price back in '87 and now even with the housing price drop is going for $416,200. Hell even my current house bought for 479K in '14 is now still over 1 mil. With the Bidenflation of the last couple of years I'd be shocked to only pay 75K.
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Campfire Kahuna
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The government requires plush interiors and home entertainment sound systems? That is what people want. Holee $hit, stupid runs deep here… Not this people - because I am deep in stupid. Hahaha!
I am MAGA.
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Up here near Detroit there is no shortage of new Silverado's and GMC pickups on dealers lots. Inventory may be lower then pre covid days but there are a lot of new trucks around. Dealers are coming off MSRP by a few thousand.
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This passed summer I saw a 2022 F 450 Crew cab Pick up in town here that still had a window sticker. $117K had a Texas tag on it and the guy driving it was 85 if he was a minute old. He almost needed help in and out of it.
Last edited by wyoming260; 02/28/23.
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Campfire Ranger
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This passed summer I saw a 2022 F 450 Crew cab Pick up in town here that still had a window sticker. $117K had a Texas tag on it and the guy driving it was 85 if he was a minute old. He almost needed help in and out of it. I’ll bet he paid cash for it and nobody forced him to buy it…
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This passed summer I saw a 2022 F 450 Crew cab Pick up in town here that still had a window sticker. $117K had a Texas tag on it and the guy driving it was 85 if he was a minute old. He almost needed help in and out of it. I’ll bet he paid cash for it and nobody forced him to buy it… I bet he financed it for 7 years, with zero down, and is laughing his azz off thinking he’ll be dead before they can collect all the money…
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