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The expander ball can stretch cases some.


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My 6MM is a custom 240 weatherby. If you reload, it’s a good option and a terrific long range coyote rifle, or deer antelope cartridge. Simply buy a Rem 700 in 06 chambering (25, or 270, or 280, or 30) and replace the barrel with a 6mm, chambered in 240W.


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Originally Posted by GaryLL1959
In other words, no real advantage in real world applications,

.....and then having to buy a flat billed ball cap, T shirts 2 sizes too small, and grow a man bun to go with the creedmoor...
A few years ago, the SAUM cartridges were all the rage, and wildcats formed from them. end all, be all!

Then the WSM and OMG the WSSM. And then the 6.5-284 became the darling of the press and long range shooters

Every churner had to have one of each as they came along.

Try to find ammo for any of these cartridge families in the store today, or even brass.

Are the Creedmoors just today's fashion queen? Due to be replaced by the next beauty to walk down the runway?
Or do they have staying power like Raquel Welch or Elizebeth Taylor?

We know the 243 will be well supported as long as our government allows us peons to own rifles and ammunition. Every corner store has some type of 243 ammo. And 308 case are ubiquitous. They will remain so for about the next 100 years.

Such considerations are not really important to most of us here. If a rifle becomes impossible to feed, we just have someone screw another barrel on. Hell, that first barrel is probably damned near shot out anyway.

But most of the world does not think that way. Most people are not even aware that a barrel may be changed. If they can not get ammo, the rifle becomes a tomato stake.

I consider such when choosing a rifle for a youth.



As to the 243 vs 244/6mm debate. Yes, Remington made some major errors with their introduction, which honestly are probably only mistakes with the wisdom of hindsight.

The 7.62x51 was brand new when Winchester adopted it as a commercial cartridge in 1952. Rem and Win each introduced their respective 244 and 243 just three years later in 1955. Remington failed to predict the popularity of the 6 mm as a big game round. Hell, who could blame them. The 270 was still considered controversial at the time for use on deer sized game. Just look at the writings of Elmer Keith.

Remington was looking to produce a new toy for the growing sport of rodent shooting. Looking to give the country bumpkins an alternative to our 30-06 for killing squirrels.

They succeeded admirably with the 244!

But the market shifted. Customers realized deer could be killed as well, or even better with a 6 mm as with a 45-70.

Add to that, varmint shooters were primarily handloaders in a time when handloading was considered an arcane art by most. And handloaders loved the availability of all that surplus 7.62x51 brass, just as they had been loving surplus 30-06 brass since the end of WW I.

From the very beginning, the deck was stacked against the 244 Rem. But it was not all Remington's fault. If any of us could predict the future, we would be billionaires in the stock market.


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243 Win. is easier to find ammo ,brass ,is a true short action cartridge ,is accurate enough and fast enough for deer hunting. i own 6BR`s ,243 Winchesters , 6 MM Remingtons ,6 MM 284`s also and too be honest for the average person tough to beat a 243 Win. for all around.


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I gave my son (at age 12) a 243 Rem 700 BDL for Christmas. I hand load, but my thinking was, he may not want too and it is much easier to find a good selection of 243 ammo than for the 6mm Rem. He has killed a truck load of deer with that rifle. Between a 243 or a 6mm Rem, the best choice is the 243 for that reason alone.


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Originally Posted by AB2506
I wish Kimber had chambered the 6mm CM. I would have liked to try it.

Went the 6 CM direction with a trio of Kimbers. No regrets.


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From what I've read, the 243 got more popular due to the faster twist barrels put on 243 rifles. The 6mm is faster though. I always wanted a 6mm or 6mm improved. I own a 99 in 243, a 6mm Creedmoor, and a 6mm Dasher.

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Originally Posted by earlybrd
What’s the real life difference

The 6mm is harder to find brass for, and nearly impossible to shoot without reloading. Outside of that, I think it's a superior round to the .243, but just had bad timing and wrong marketing in the beginning. The 6mm has more case volume and can be loaded up a bit more. I've owned both and have kicked myself ever since selling my 6mm.

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Doesn't the 243 suffer pressure spikes? I believe Mule Deer has written on it in the past. I have a 6mm Remington, Ruger M77. Pleased with it. Factory Ammo certainly harder to find but that's why we reload. I'm a Contrarian so won't own a 243.

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Originally Posted by Dogger
Doesn't the 243 suffer pressure spikes? I believe Mule Deer has written on it in the past. I have a 6mm Remington, Ruger M77. Pleased with it. Factory Ammo certainly harder to find but that's why we reload. I'm a Contrarian so won't own a 243.
6mm is one of those calibers like .41 magnum that are great rounds, but their release timing, and marketing screwed them over. My favorite revolver round is the .41, and it should have been a more popular caliber, but Dirty Harry buried it in .44magnum hype. The 6mm screw up was Remington's fault.

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