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That wasn’t directed at you personally just a general fact.
I’m not going to “extricate” myself from a gun fight I will avoid the situation if at all possible but I train to fight and protect my loved ones.
That’s me being me.
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Can anyone cite a single instance where a civilian's life was saved because he had an extra loaded mag on him? One instance?
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That wasn’t directed at you personally just a general fact.
I’m not going to “extricate” myself from a gun fight I will avoid the situation if at all possible but I train to fight and protect my loved ones.
That’s me being me. Good for you. We're all happy for you.
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I don’t understand why anyone would need an extra magazine or a high capacity pistol. Unless you’re playing on your computer against zombies. That's precious.
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To me, it's pretty damned easy to carry a handgun, even one that carries 11 rounds of 9mm onboard, but that extra step of carrying a spare mag triples the level of difficulty for me, pushing it onto the wrong side of the edge of that risk/benefit balance, particularly since you can handle just about any civilian encounter with criminals with 11 rounds or, if you can't, that 12th round likely wouldn't have mattered..... If we can count on needing no more than that, then by today's standards (the latest iteration of the 365 line holds 17 rounds!), we're done and have no need for a spare mag. But round count isn't the only reason for a spare. Speaking from experience, having a mag base break and dump all its contents on the ground would have left me with a single shot, had I not been carrying another mag. Other types of mag failures are a consideration, of course. The interesting thing that comes to my mind is that while I think "triples the level of difficulty" is hyperbole, it is a fact that extra double stack mags are not as convenient to carry as our old 7 round mags. So, if one's primary reason for having a spare mag is not for more rounds but for dealing with a failure, then perhaps it makes more sense to carry a 7+1 single stack pistol with a spare mag.
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Can anyone cite a single instance where a civilian's life was saved because he had an extra loaded mag on him? One instance? And you know the specific details of every defensive shooting in the U.S. nationwide for how many years going back?
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Can anyone cite a single instance where a civilian's life was saved because he had an extra loaded mag on him? One instance? Can you identify a single human on this planet besides yourself who considers it more difficult to carry a spare magazine than the gun it goes into?
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Can anyone cite a single instance where a civilian's life was saved because he had an extra loaded mag on him? One instance? Not a civilian, but relevant. lotta rounds
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If your carrying a double stack with 15 or more rounds I don't see the point. A smaller capacity single stack then maybe.
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Can anyone cite a single instance where a civilian's life was saved because he had an extra loaded mag on him? One instance? I think the proper question to ask would be "how many civilians have died in a gunfight because they ran out of ammo"?
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How up to date is that information? It was three rounds in the 1970's and maybe through the 80's. My guess it is more than that now.
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Seen a video the other day of something like 16 cops having a rolling gun battle with one guy in an SUV. They fired a couple hundred rounds and only made 4 hits however 2 of those hits were on other cops!
Missing is real easy and there's no such thing as too much ammunition on hand.
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How up to date is that information? It was three rounds in the 1970's and maybe through the 80's. My guess it is more than that now. I don't know. It comes from the FBI. I read an article recently that said it was closer to 2.5 rounds but everybody thinks 2.5 rounds sounds strange so they say 3. That's the average so you know the vast majority are solved in 1 to 2 rounds. Carry what ever makes you feel comfortable. I do. That old guy with the wheel gun is still just as dangerous as he ever was.
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Can anyone cite a single instance where a civilian's life was saved because he had an extra loaded mag on him? One instance? I think the proper question to ask would be "how many civilians have died in a gunfight because they ran out of ammo"? Okay, how many?
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The interesting thing that comes to my mind is that while I think "triples the level of difficulty" is hyperbole, it is a fact that extra double stack mags are not as convenient to carry as our old 7 round mags. So, if one's primary reason for having a spare mag is not for more rounds but for dealing with a failure, then perhaps it makes more sense to carry a 7+1 single stack pistol with a spare mag. In addtion, it seems the chance of magazines falling apart or falling out of the gun needs to be factored into the Pistol vs. Revolver debate. I had never given it much thought, but over the years I've seen more than a few competitive shooters toss a magazine down range under the pressure of drawing the handgun.
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Can anyone cite a single instance where a civilian's life was saved because he had an extra loaded mag on him? One instance? I think the proper question to ask would be "how many civilians have died in a gunfight because they ran out of ammo"? Okay, how many? If I had been at the Steve Scalise baseball game shooting, where the attacker had an SKS and was at some distance, and I only had a handgun, I would want my G40 with extra mags.
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