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It suggests to me that the financial world has pretty strong faith in Jerome killing inflation pretty quickly.

I’m not sure he’s going to be as successful as they think. Food and commodity inflation are going to be significant and entrenched.


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Inflation, %6.4?


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
Inflation, %6.4?

You can only hope that inflation is below 10%.


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The last 8 times the yield curve inverted this much, there was a recession within months. Inflation is insidious. But you have people like Pocahontas screaming for political points that unemployment may rise. She acts like a savior for 2 million people that may lose their jobs but doesn't give a schit about 350 million losing 10% of their buying power. Typical Democrat retard who can't think systemically.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
It suggests to me that the financial world has pretty strong faith in Jerome killing inflation pretty quickly.

I’m not sure he’s going to be as successful as they think. Food and commodity inflation are going to be significant and entrenched.

Powell really hasn’t said anything different than previously.

I think you’re right about food and commodities inflation being with us for a long while.

The lag time of cause (rate rise) and effect isn’t immediate.

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The people who are pushing the message that everything's going to be fine as soon as possible are the brokerages and fund managers because they make a lot more money when there's a bull market. And they're pitching their hype to stock market crack addicts that buy the dip every time without exception. Problem is that prevents capitulation and drags the bear market out even longer.


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Mortgage applications at 28-year low

The markets have held up better than I would have thought and inflation is proving tougher to control than the Fed expected. I'm bearish but wouldn't be surprised if the government actually lets inflation run higher for longer instead of interest rates.



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Originally Posted by Whiptail
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The markets have held up better than I would have thought and inflation is proving tougher to control than the Fed expected. I'm bearish but wouldn't be surprised if the government actually lets inflation run higher for longer instead of interest rates.

The markets believe Powell will just make inflation go away with interest.

I find that a poorly supported belief. The last Great Inflation didn’t just happen out of the blue. The cost of energy tripled overnight, and prices were off to the races.

This time, Covidiocy provided the shock, but what is really driving prices up today is not the shortage of goods, it’s the shortage of LABOR to make the goods. That labor shortage is pulling labor into manufacturing, away from services. Raising interest rates is going to slow down capital investment, further increasing labor demand, further increasing wages. Particularly in services, as we are now seeing.

In todays inflation scenario, the commodity in short supply is labor, and to address it, capital investment should be increased, not decreased. Yet, we are trying to decrease capital spending by increasing interest rates.

Group think is a thing, even in economics.


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Sure are a lot of government and otherwise caused shortages under this administration right down to toilet paper.
The only shortage we need that would do any good is a shortage of paper for printing money.
They must have a massive warehouse full of that hidden away somewhere.

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It's not rocket science. Interest rates have to approach inflation rates,maybe exceed them.

When interest rates hit 7-8%, the inflationary dollar should cool.

Tax cuts would help,but we know the commies in charge won't consider it.

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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
It's not rocket science. Interest rates have to approach inflation rates,maybe exceed them.

When interest rates hit 7-8%, the inflationary dollar should cool.

Tax cuts would help,but we know the commies in charge won't consider it.

Tax cuts would increase demand, fueling inflation.

What should be done, and should have been done a LONG time ago, is to restart student loan payments. That would have a significant impact on spending, immediately.

Second, we should increase labor availability. Active, regular reviews of disability status and other welfare programs prone to abuse. Limit student loans to no more than the annual average income in the chosen field. Remove the tax penalty for working while on SS.

Lots of ways to increase supply of labor and decrease spending that would be good for this country.


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A slow steady increase of 2-3 points over the past 4-5 years would have done wonders.


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Tax cuts would increase demand, fueling inflation.

What should be done, and should have been done a LONG time ago, is to restart student loan payments. That would have a significant impact on spending, immediately.

Second, we should increase labor availability. Active, regular reviews of disability status and other welfare programs prone to abuse. Limit student loans to no more than the annual average income in the chosen field. Remove the tax penalty for working while on SS.

Lots of ways to increase supply of labor and decrease spending that would be good for this country.

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America was emerging from a stagnant and inflationary period during Richard Nixon's presidency. And, it somewhat stabilized during Jery Ford's presidency. But, it fell off the map with Jimmy Carter. I see the same thing happening again right now. Joe Biden is a token president only. His staff and the cryin' chucky schumer are running America and we see the results. If we don't get another Ronald Reagan in 2024 America is done.

For you folks who live in a blue State I'm sorry for your plight but you are screwed. You may never see an honest election again. America may never see an honest election again if the democRATs have their way. They are holding up pretty well for a party that is getting desperate to survive.

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Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
It's not rocket science. Interest rates have to approach inflation rates,maybe exceed them.

When interest rates hit 7-8%, the inflationary dollar should cool.

Tax cuts would help,but we know the commies in charge won't consider it.

Tax cuts would increase demand, fueling inflation.


A liberal talking point. Historically, tax cuts have never driven inflation. Government spending/fed printing drive inflation.

The great Art Laffer said, "raise interest rates,cut taxes, melt inflation." He did it in the late 70's/early 80's with Reagan.

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Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
It's not rocket science. Interest rates have to approach inflation rates,maybe exceed them.

When interest rates hit 7-8%, the inflationary dollar should cool.

Tax cuts would help,but we know the commies in charge won't consider it.

Tax cuts would increase demand, fueling inflation.

What should be done, and should have been done a LONG time ago, is to restart student loan payments. That would have a significant impact on spending, immediately.

Second, we should increase labor availability. Active, regular reviews of disability status and other welfare programs prone to abuse. Limit student loans to no more than the annual average income in the chosen field. Remove the tax penalty for working while on SS.

Lots of ways to increase supply of labor and decrease spending that would be good for this country.

Yep.

“Too much money chasing too few goods. Can’t really destroy money that’s already been printed, so the other way to take it out of circulation is making folks pay their debts, rather than buying “toys”, and keep taxes where they are, for the time being (unless it’s something that stimulates someone to get off their azz and start working).

Folks feeling a NEED to work (rather than sitting around and spending stimulus money on the internet or living off their parents), would definitely help..

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Originally Posted by Bwana338
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Inflation, %6.4?

You can only hope that inflation is below 10%.

Inflation is way above 10% at this point.


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