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Actions look similar. Have handled a Bergara premier but not the remington so might not be close at all. Curious.
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Isn't the Bergara action a 700 clone? I.e., how could they *not* look similar?
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Yeah Bergara rifles along Christensen are both Remington 700 clones (with improvements)....Hb
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Isn't the Bergara action a 700 clone? I.e., how could they *not* look similar? Yep
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Well, let's get this party started. For the "M70 is superior" zealots; why isn't anyone else cloning it and selling the snot out of them?
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Well, let's get this party started. For the "M70 is superior" zealots; why isn't anyone else cloning it and selling the snot out of them? Lol 🦫
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Well, let's get this party started. For the "M70 is superior" zealots; why isn't anyone else cloning it and selling the snot out of them? Because the average American rifle buyer would rather shoot a Savage Axis or a 700 ADL with spray paint "bluing" and then spend the extra money on tactical garbage and Bone Collector hats at Wal-Mart?
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I meant similar as in same ejector, extractor, etc. Maybe mfg.
Asking if someone who has seen both.
In other words is the new Remington a mimic of the Bergara.
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Well, let's get this party started. For the "M70 is superior" zealots; why isn't anyone else cloning it and selling the snot out of them? Or why doesn’t Darcy just use an R700? Things that make you go 🤔 …
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Ifn ya asked Safariman he'd tell ya that the M70 is far superior to the M700 ... Simply because of the CRF "claw" y'know .. never mind the integrity of said action failing to hold pressures as well as the M700
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Ifn ya asked Safariman he'd tell ya that the M70 is far superior to the M700 ... Simply because of the CRF "claw" y'know .. never mind the integrity of said action failing to hold pressures as well as the M700 You've watched lots of M70s blow up? What are the Montanas everyone here scrambles after based on?
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Well, let's get this party started. For the "M70 is superior" zealots; why isn't anyone else cloning it and selling the snot out of them? Probably the cost to manufacture has a lot to do with it.
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Well, let's get this party started. For the "M70 is superior" zealots; why isn't anyone else cloning it and selling the snot out of them? Probably the cost to manufacture has a lot to do with it. Bingo.......the 70 action is a tad more complex, may take the 3D printer a bit longer to spit out..... Time is $$.
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Well, let's get this party started. For the "M70 is superior" zealots; why isn't anyone else cloning it and selling the snot out of them? Probably the cost to manufacture has a lot to do with it. Bingo.......the 70 action is a tad more complex, may take the 3D printer a bit longer to spit out..... Time is $$. If the quality of what Remington was putting out the last few years is going to be the baseline, this is the answer. Tons of plastic, bluing that rusted if you looked at it too hard, crummy safety.
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Remington uses or used before the close hammer forged barrels. Most if not all barrels came out slightly bent and were never stress relieved. Talked with a smith who chucked up a flew in a lathe and said they were way out wack. But, I talked with another smith who said the new production rifle actions are hard to really improve upon i.e. action face and lugs. Said the tolerances were way tighter than say a "B" serial number. I like the old ones myself, but whatever. As far as model 70s. I think the new Bacos are just better rifles all the way around. Steel floor metal, better bluing, better wood, heck I think they even tapped the actions with better pride. Their barrels break in great with little fouling, I think winchester makes a better rifle. But with that being said, those mid 80s to early 90s remington bdls and classics are hard to beat. I think you would have to get a really good classic to equal a grade 1 sporter Baco.
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We haven’t had a M70 vs M700 war in years now. Well done boys! Lets do this.
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We haven’t had a M70 vs M700 war in years now. Well done boys! Lets do this. Haha one of the surest signs that most deer seasons are over.
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We haven’t had a M70 vs M700 war in years now. Well done boys! Lets do this. Haha one of the surest signs that most deer seasons are over. That ain't no kidding!
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We haven’t had a M70 vs M700 war in years now. Well done boys! Lets do this. Haha one of the surest signs that most deer seasons are over. 😀😀
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