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Looking at jumping into a Howa Mini and know I'll hate the stock already. Those of you that have swapped stocks for one of the Stocky's factory seconds, how rough were they and were they drop in?
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Yes to drop in ready, although I used the OG bottom metal on mine, and had to do just a small amount of inletting. As far as being "rough," mine wasn't all that bad. It has a few imperfections, but I don't like the color and finish, so I painted it.
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Few very minor cosmetic imperfections on mine . Everything was a drop in, just plug n play. No complaints here.
Oh, and believe it or not, deer bite. Fairly hard.
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Yes to drop in ready, although I used the OG bottom metal on mine, and had to do just a small amount of inletting. As far as being "rough," mine wasn't all that bad. It has a few imperfections, but I don't like the color and finish, so I painted it. Agree on the look of the carbon fiber. Pretty sure mine’s getting sprayed when the weather improves. Needs some texture too.
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Agree with all of the above on my build. I added closed cell foam to the back of the stock to quiet the stock noise and add some stiffness.
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10-4...thanks for the replies.
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Agree with all of the above on my build. I added closed cell foam to the back of the stock to quiet the stock noise and add some stiffness. I’m sure interested in this. That was the first thing I noticed was how loud hollow and squishy the butt is.
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I considered using spray foam but that did not seem to have enough stiffness to help with the problem. I then decided to cut strips of a piece of closed cell foam I had laying around and jammed the strips in long ways into the stock. As I added the layers and made it tighter inside the hollow effect was abated. Did not weigh the amount of foam but it did not seem to be too much weight. With Meopta 3-9x40 scope, Burris bases, factory recoil pad, Jefferson Outdoor CZ527 detachable mag bottom metal, and paint on the stock, the overall weight with scope mounted is just over 6 lbs.
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Thank you. A little bit of weight gain won’t be a big problem. Even though I cut the barrel down with the suppressor it’s still a little barrel heavy. Which I do like a little weight forward anyway just saying a little bit of weight won’t hurt. Thanks for the update.
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Interesting. I need to give this a try. The walls on the butt section seem to be very thin and compressible...almost to the point that I'm not sure it would hold up to much of a side impact. I'd wondered about filling it with Great Stuff.
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I considered using spray foam but that did not seem to have enough stiffness to help with the problem. I then decided to cut strips of a piece of closed cell foam I had laying around and jammed the strips in long ways into the stock. As I added the layers and made it tighter inside the hollow effect was abated. Did not weigh the amount of foam but it did not seem to be too much weight. With Meopta 3-9x40 scope, Burris bases, factory recoil pad, Jefferson Outdoor CZ527 detachable mag bottom metal, and paint on the stock, the overall weight with scope mounted is just over 6 lbs. Hi, if you don't mind me asking, was the recoil pad hard to remover or was it simply screwed on? I tried to take mine off and I could hear cracking which I assumed was whatever part of the carbon fiber the screws were in. I didn't want to break anything so I just quit and tightened it back again. Thanks.
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The recoil pad is screwed into carbon fiber pieces that are placed for the screw attachments. I would not worry about the cracking sounds as the carbon fiber is securely attached to the stock fiber.
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The recoil pad is screwed into carbon fiber pieces that are placed for the screw attachments. I would not worry about the cracking sounds as the carbon fiber is securely attached to the stock fiber. Good to hear. Thanks for the info.
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I ordered one and couldn't tell that it was a "second". Just got done with the paint yesterday. 6.5 Grendel with Wayne York bottom metal.
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I ordered one and couldn't tell that it was a "second". Just got done with the paint yesterday. 6.5 Grendel with Wayne York bottom metal. Add those effects with a sponge?
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ChrisAU, Yes, sponge. You definitely have to knock down the sheen on the carbon stock. I did that with a new green Scotch Brite pad, then sponged in the colors. I've done quite a few now!
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Here's the whole side.
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I ordered one and couldn't tell that it was a "second". Just got done with the paint yesterday. 6.5 Grendel with Wayne York bottom metal. Here's the whole side. Looks great man. Awesome work.
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That does look really good. Sponge-bobbing stocks, in my experience, is the quickest and easiest way to change the look of a stock.
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Here's the whole side. Man that’s pretty - let me know when you want to offload it and I’ll meet you in Virginia Beach!
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Here's the whole side. Love it. Details on color?
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Here's the whole side. Love it. Details on color? Just a guess here but, green, gray, and orange.
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Yes, flat primer gray, olive camo Green, and Warm Caramel.
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Yes, flat primer gray, olive camo Green, and Warm Caramel. Thank you
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I ordered one and couldn't tell that it was a "second". Just got done with the paint yesterday. 6.5 Grendel with Wayne York bottom metal. What height of the Talley's?
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Just placed an order for a Stockys sporter CF second. They gave a $60 off of reg price of $299 for total of $239 before s/h. They show it as a back order but last time I ordered a second that showed back order I got it in a week. Fingers Crossed !!!
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Just placed an order for a Stockys sporter CF second. They gave a $60 off of reg price of $299 for total of $239 before s/h. They show it as a back order but last time I ordered a second that showed back order I got it in a week. Fingers Crossed !!! Where did you find this deal?!? I'd take 3 of 'em at that price!
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fack me, I bought a 'new version' and it was sad...would hate to see the factory seconds, contemplate at the very least refinishing the stock yourself if you want something resembling their asking price, mine came poorly finished to unfinished around the recoil pad, and most of the stock has porous sections as if they didn't let the final coatings sink in long enough to ensure good before shipping it out the door...will not spend another dollar with these guys, good thing its on the biggest money pit in my safe that I'll smile every time the kids drop it etc.
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I ordered one and couldn't tell that it was a "second". Just got done with the paint yesterday. 6.5 Grendel with Wayne York bottom metal. What height of the Talley's? I have the low Talleys for my mini grendel and this stocky's stock and it's still not low enough imo, I like to get down, I think I found the ultimate low and cheek alignment with Burris xtb steel bases and weaver 1" detach top mount low rings...I actually like my rig now. Just put a leupold fx2 2.5x ultralight on mine and have both Jefferson hinged and cz detach mag kits and will run the detach mag kit. My mini is slabbed/fluted and 22" sporter cut back to 18.5", -3.0 oz came out of action/bolt. Bare rifle 4 lb 10.5 oz with the 3.0 oz Jefferson hinged (same weight as factory plastic bottom end/mag), the cz kit with magazine is 4.5 oz heavier, I added a 1/2 oz single slot weaver base to tip of stock ahead of sling for putting night light on (o-light baldr type work great) and SAP 2 round shell holder on stock is another 1/2 oz, the weaver detach top mount 1" low are around 2.5 oz and the xtb bases around 1/2 oz each maybe 1.5 for the pair. Currently it sits at 5 lb 10 oz with the leupold etc. Best place to see it is instagram at 65grendelhunters
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I just got a 2nds too. It has a few rough patches and the 1/2 recoil as provided is poor. I wanted a longer LOP so ordered a 1 inch decelerator which it will be ground to fit. Some sanding, paint, and bedding will make it a very nice stock. It's 16 oz w/o pad. I feel the 2nd is a fair deal for $300 shipped and Kim was very nice. I would not want to pay $700 for the 'normal' finished product.
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I need to get one but evertime I look I can't find a 2nd. Even the firsts look like about a $300 stock tops so I'm not wanting to pay $600 for a first. I'm still mentally adjusting to the fact that $600 doesn't by near what it did 3 years ago.
I just paid $18 for a bowel of Pho' and $16 for a 10" Ban mi sandwich last night. The restaurant was pretty packed but everyone else in the restaurant besides us were college students. Most people can't or won't afford an $18 bowel of soup and a $16 sandwich but those students are flush with student loan cash that the regime says they won't have to pay back.
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I just paid $18 for a bowel of Pho' and $16 for a 10" Ban mi sandwich last night. The restaurant was pretty packed but everyone else in the restaurant besides us were college students. Most people can't or won't afford an $18 bowel of soup and a $16 sandwich but those students are flush with student loan cash that the regime says they won't have to pay back. Bb
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I need to get one but evertime I look I can't find a 2nd. Even the firsts look like about a $300 stock tops so I'm not wanting to pay $600 for a first. I'm still mentally adjusting to the fact that $600 doesn't by near what it did 3 years ago.
I just paid $18 for a bowel of Pho' and $16 for a 10" Ban mi sandwich last night. The restaurant was pretty packed but everyone else in the restaurant besides us were college students. Most people can't or won't afford an $18 bowel of soup and a $16 sandwich but those students are flush with student loan cash that the regime says they won't have to pay back.
Bb I’ve got a blem that has the cf barrel channel - ended up being more float for a heavy barrel than I wanted. PM if you have any interest.
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No complaints with my factory second. I opened the barrel channel a bit on one side but I think that was an issue with the BA and not the stock as it is uneven in a couple different stocks. Honestly, I am not even sure why they call it a second.
As far as being on backorder, they showed back order when I ordered a while back and still shipped immediately.
Still on the fence with the minis in general. They are cute as hell but the fun stops when trying to load them up with full grown man-hands (I have the Oregun hinged floorplate).
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I have a couple. For the money it is in my opinion the lightest and stiffest stock out there.
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I liked the one I picked up for my daughters mini so much I converted one to fit my left hand Forbes 20b!🤣
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X2 on that! What’s the story on that grip tape? Nice recoil pad work.
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Thanks! The grip areas are just Brownells steel bed bedding compound rubbed on with a popsicle stick then dapped with a finger to get the texture. Just put blue tape over the stock and cut out whatever shape you want for the textured areas.
While the recoil pad is not the prettiest I needed extra length without extra weight so I glued 2 flip flops together and epoxied that onto the stock. Weighs 1 ounce for a full 1 inch thick pad. I have more pics of the rifle over in the lefty sub forum
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