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Nope. I'll check it out but if it doesn't dispense more knowledge about .32-20's than what I've learned in 40+ years of messing with it I won't buy it!


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As others have said, check for dust on the powder.

I recently got about 10-12lbs of various powders, some of which are very old, from an estate. I dumped each can into a bowl and only one had dust on it. That can went onto the lawn. The rest will get used.

I have about 2lbs of AL-5 I am still using. I loaded shotgun ammo from that can back in the mid-60's. It works fine in 380, 38sp and 9mm.

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Had this sitting on the shelf for years, found it like this one day, had undergone some sort of reaction, orange stuff bubbled up, ate through the lid, smelled of ammonia.

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Yeah, I probably wouldn't use that powder.


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Update: I poured out each pound of powder on a white sheet of desk blotter paper, looking for any red/rust dust. Four pounds of IMR4350 and three pounds of IMR3031 all clean. Whoopee!! I didn't check the Norma 200 or the half can of IMR4064, but will if I ever use it. I don't need the Green Dot or Blue Dot, Pyrodex, or any of the black powder, so will probably turn the smokeless into fertilizer. Can the same be done with black powder.


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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Like others have said, the powder inside the cans will tell the tale. I've been tapping into a huge stash of handloading components accumulated (hoarded) by a child of The Depression who now spends his days reminiscing about his stint in the post-war Army and then working as a ranch hand in Wyoming right after WWII. Some of the powder cans looked exactly like the ones you pictured. Some of them, cans of 4064 made by DuPont in the 60's-70's looked worse. So far, no issues - I've shot a helluva lot of it and in the case of the 4064 I wish I had more of it, my .30-06's love it. There's even about a dozen unopened cans of various Herter's powders from the 60's that I'm very curious about but am a bit leery of only because data for that stuff is a little thin on the ground these days.

All of this hoard was stored in a decidedly un-climate controlled wooden garage, and has suffered three to six decades of wild fluctuations of temperature/humidity which only denizens here on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay will understand. "Store in a cool dry place" warnings were completely ignored by the old gentleman, but knock on wood I haven't encountered any components yet that have gone sour.

As for "who shoots .32-20 anymore?" Well, I do and would surely love to have more components for it. Please keep me in mind if you decide to dispose of it!

Side note: there must be at least half a ton of #9 shot piled out there, the canvas bags rotting and the shot acquiring a lot of oxidation. I've tried reclaiming it by vibratory tumbling with fresh graphite powder mixed in, and that works but is time consuming and I don't shoot skeet anymore. I think I'm better off melting it into ingots instead.

I’ve got two 32/20’s that I load for. A Smith M&P my grandfather bought about 100 years ago and a Ruger Buckeye convertible 😁


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Had this sitting on the shelf for years, found it like this one day, had undergone some sort of reaction, orange stuff bubbled up, ate through the lid, smelled of ammonia.

Had the same thing happen with some IMR 4895 but had a strong bleach/chlorine smell.


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Had this sitting on the shelf for years, found it like this one day, had undergone some sort of reaction, orange stuff bubbled up, ate through the lid, smelled of ammonia.


When you scrape the head off the top what's it like underneath?



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Originally Posted by RevMike
Update: I poured out each pound of powder on a white sheet of desk blotter paper, looking for any red/rust dust. Four pounds of IMR4350 and three pounds of IMR3031 all clean. Whoopee!! I didn't check the Norma 200 or the half can of IMR4064, but will if I ever use it. I don't need the Green Dot or Blue Dot, Pyrodex, or any of the black powder, so will probably turn the smokeless into fertilizer. Can the same be done with black powder.

Rev, find a group local that shoots BP. they will give you everlasting love for those cans of Holy Black.


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Originally Posted by navlav8r
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Like others have said, the powder inside the cans will tell the tale. I've been tapping into a huge stash of handloading components accumulated (hoarded) by a child of The Depression who now spends his days reminiscing about his stint in the post-war Army and then working as a ranch hand in Wyoming right after WWII. Some of the powder cans looked exactly like the ones you pictured. Some of them, cans of 4064 made by DuPont in the 60's-70's looked worse. So far, no issues - I've shot a helluva lot of it and in the case of the 4064 I wish I had more of it, my .30-06's love it. There's even about a dozen unopened cans of various Herter's powders from the 60's that I'm very curious about but am a bit leery of only because data for that stuff is a little thin on the ground these days.

All of this hoard was stored in a decidedly un-climate controlled wooden garage, and has suffered three to six decades of wild fluctuations of temperature/humidity which only denizens here on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay will understand. "Store in a cool dry place" warnings were completely ignored by the old gentleman, but knock on wood I haven't encountered any components yet that have gone sour.

As for "who shoots .32-20 anymore?" Well, I do and would surely love to have more components for it. Please keep me in mind if you decide to dispose of it!

Side note: there must be at least half a ton of #9 shot piled out there, the canvas bags rotting and the shot acquiring a lot of oxidation. I've tried reclaiming it by vibratory tumbling with fresh graphite powder mixed in, and that works but is time consuming and I don't shoot skeet anymore. I think I'm better off melting it into ingots instead.

I’ve got two 32/20’s that I load for. A Smith M&P my grandfather bought about 100 years ago and a Ruger Buckeye convertible 😁

A Browning M53 and a recently acquired Marlin M1894 that I'll shoot for the first time tomorrow.


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Originally Posted by deerstalker
Rev, find a group local that shoots BP. they will give you everlasting love for those cans of Holy Black.

Good idea. Everyone I know who hunts BP shoots those premeasured pellets (or whatever they are), but I'll ask one of the local game wardens. I expect he'll know.


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Unless it gets wet, BP doesn't go bad.


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Had a little over a half pound of surplus H-4831 go bad.

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By coincidence I have some very old H4831 in cardboard containers Guessing from the 50's.

Opened one up yesterday....Looked like any H4831 I have used. Loaded up three rounds with 70 gr and 200MK. Velocities on my chrono averaged 2831.

Have six containers. Been stored in dry workroom.

I for sure will check any of it before using, but plan on using it.

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Dad bought a keg of H4831 as military surplus just after WW11.

He stored it in 1 gallon cans. I used up the last of in back in the mid 70's along with military surplus primers in wooden trays.

It worked just fine.

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Originally Posted by RevMike
I don't need the Green Dot or Blue Dot, Pyrodex, or any of the black powder, so will probably turn the smokeless into fertilizer. Can the same be done with black powder.
Don't waste it, give it all away! GD & BD are fine for shotgun & pistol.


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Originally Posted by RevMike
I don't need the Green Dot or Blue Dot, Pyrodex, or any of the black powder, so will probably turn the smokeless into fertilizer. Can the same be done with black powder.
Don't waste it, give it all away! GD & BD are fine for shotgun & pistol.

Good grief yes, don't waste it! Why would someone pour perfectly good powder on the lawn?


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Originally Posted by NVhntr
Yeah, I probably wouldn't use that powder.

Where’s your spirit of adventure?😜

That’s some funky-lookin’ stuff. Not sure I even want that dumped on my lawn……


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Dust and smell.


Only ever found bad powder once, and it wasn't real old.



Funny thing about old powder,
Everyone worries if it's bad. "Will it blow up my gun?)
But they will shoot ancient loaded rounds?




I have had bad Remington 243 ammo from the 80s.
Misfires, on inspection, their was corrosion at the bullet and primer edges.
I bought it new, stored in the living area of my homes the whole time.

Well whippersnapper... 80s ain't old. I have shot and know a friend that still has some ww1 45 ammo. Worst part is now and then one won't go bang...


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Originally Posted by RevMike
Update: I poured out each pound of powder on a white sheet of desk blotter paper, looking for any red/rust dust. Four pounds of IMR4350 and three pounds of IMR3031 all clean. Whoopee!! I didn't check the Norma 200 or the half can of IMR4064, but will if I ever use it. I don't need the Green Dot or Blue Dot, Pyrodex, or any of the black powder, so will probably turn the smokeless into fertilizer. Can the same be done with black powder.
This day and time dumping powder just because you have no use for it isn't smart at all. Any of that can be used for multiple purposes if the shortage and need is there.

FWIW I'm still running a case of Dupont black from 64.
Bought a big keg of surplus ball from the late 60 or early 70s. Its all still running just fine.

I just can't envision folks throwing away good powder. Primers or bullets. Heck I'd use 270 if I was forced to. And even with game kings if thats all I had.


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