Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics Frustration with scope movement….

…in scope rings!

Aarrrrgh!

It doesn’t matter if the scope rings are $145 dollars or $75 bucks. Some rings are inherently problematic when trying to level and center the reticle in a scope when properly tightening down the ring screws.

Following the instructions, which are basically the exact same thing for all rings. Some rings will ‘roll’ a scope as the rings tighten down leaving you a reticle that is slightly askew of where you had it perfectly positioned before screwing down.

I’ve used many ring mfg’s like Seekins Precision, Vortex Precision (same as Seekins) Vortex Pro rings, Warne, Leupold, Steiner, Burris, and Uber expensive Zeiss rings.

Of all the rings I’ve installed over the years, Zeiss rings have been the worst. They have these 3 ridges inside the ring cap, that I guess is supposed to grip the scope tube better as you tighten screws.

I believe the issue must be these ridges are grabbing the scope tube too early in the process of tightening down. Then as I continue to finalize the sequence of tightening screws with a torque wrench. I throw the rifle up and viola, scope reticle has moved.

I’ve messed with these Zeiss rings for a few days, and again, just now. I’m so over these bitches.

My last effort will be to place my reticle off a smidge at the beginning and see if these whore of a dog Zeiss rings will roll the reticle into the position they should be in.

End of Rant!

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Why not just get some good rings? Like ARC m-10/M-Braces?

That's called Ar-kan-saw Windage. Weaver perfected rings that turn your scope as you tighten them down. Every brand following are amateurs.

Don, at $165 dollars for these rings. A guy might have thunk they’d be good 2 go.

I have Seekins and Vortex rings on hand. They’ll fix me up.

Here’s a look at these expensive pile of schite.

https://www.zeiss.com/consumer-prod...lescope-accessories/precision-rings.html


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That's what we always had to do with the old strap-over type of Weaver rings I grew up using, like Fireball2 mentions.

These days, I get everything situated, get the ring top-halves nice and centered, and then I get all the screws in to the point where they are just about to start cinching. Then I start going in cross-hatch pattern, turning in each screw about a quarter turn, maybe even an eight of a turn at first. Once there is some good cinching going on and the scope is not as apt to rotation, I'll maybe turn each screw about half a rotation at a time. Seems to work okay more often than not.

Those ridges look like they would guarantee leaving ring marks on a scope.

I tighten rings in multiple stages using small increments of torque on the fasteners. I get the reticle the way I want it when things are starting to tighten but I can still adjust the scope with some effort. This mostly prevents problems with the scope canting turning during the final torque steps.

Old style Weavers can still require a bit of the "preloaded cant" technique however.

I do the same as you and Jpro mentioned. Small, counted turns, followed by each screw in cross sequence getting the same amount of small turns.

I do this process until I’m tight enough to grab the torque and make the final adjustments.

A lot of ring’s there isn’t any issue. Then there’s a few that just hate on a guy. Like these Zeiss rings.

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That frustrates the crap out of me too Beav. One thing I've done to attempt to counteract that is to take a couple the proper sized tools and tighten both sides of the ring at the same time, at least that's what works best for me.

Johnny,

That’s a trick I haven’t tried.

I will give it a try.

Thanks!

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Lap and bed the rings for full contact with the scope tube. You'll be surprised how the rolling stops.

Good shootin' -Al

We're over here working like cavemen and this guy is living in 2050.... lol

Frick’n Texans!

Lol

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Thanks, Al.

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This is what I do as well.

I have had only one brand of ring that stayed put when cranking a scope. They are twice of the price of most rings and rails. I plan on buying them again. Hint: They are made in Canada

SportsMatch.

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Yea right.

ARC rings have the best clamp design to alleviate this problem.

ARCs are the answer.

John