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So there's a bear in that fence? Or has he found a way through/over/under it?
-Jake They can climb right up one side and down the other. Basically like a step ladder for them.
Oh, and believe it or not, deer bite. Fairly hard.
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In the late 1990's my family fenced in 600 acres of Pennsylvania forest. For awhile it was used to take my father through his retirement, but he has since passed. This property is amazing and while you may not like the idea of fenced hunting, this place has been a joy to be part of. The elk on it have been born without contact with man for many, many generations and are extremely elusive. This is not like the places that stock elk that were raised in a pen and then hunt them. The fact is, while they may not be able to migrate to the next county, if you kick one up and don't get it, you will likely not see it again in the cover of the thick forests. The property has a 5 mile long perimeter fence 10' tall, only. No smaller fenced areas. I know of no other place on the eastern half of the USA where someone can hunt elk that are not tame, or require a lottery to get the chance at one. Listed here is our website. Should you know of any interested people or even groups, please connect them with our website. The lodge has 7 small bedrooms. Thank you for looking! www.highlandranchusa.comPersonally, I think you did a great thing understanding that it is Pennsylvania and it was your fathers dream come true. It is your money and your property and it appears you managed it well. Now, if you really want to make a contribution to the State open a gate on the far side of the property and let a few of those elk run. Do that once or twice a year and you and your fathers legacy could go down as local heroes at some point in the future. kwg
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1899guy: I have never participated in a "fenced Big Game Hunt" - but at my age and if I could afford it I would buy that beautiful parcel and enjoy it. It is sure different than where I grew up Hunting (Okanogan country of eastern Washington and the foothills of the western Cascades) and where I now Hunt (Rocky Mountain west). Thanks for the link and good luck with the sale. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy P.S.: Please pass along my standing cash offer to the realtor of $1,000,000.00 (one million dollars).
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So there's a bear in that fence? Or has he found a way through/over/under it?
-Jake They can climb right up one side and down the other. Basically like a step ladder for them. Falling trees (wind or ice storms) can also wreak havoc on fences. Pretty sure Bob can attest to the continual maintenance necessary to keep a fence of that length functional and intact.
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Poconojack, when we built this place we did it right. We cut a 100' + clearcut around the entire perimeter of the property. Nothing reaches it and if it does, its just the gentile tree-tops that do nothing to this high-tensile fence. As far as the time spent, I spend about 5 hours per year on the fence, mostly filling holes that bears dig under the fence, and its usually no big deal. The place is pretty much turn-key and maintenance free. Regarding the bears, they go over or under the fence. They pretty much do whatever they want. To the guy who says its a small piece of property and west of there is full of elk, bla, bla, bla, good luck hunting one of those, in the lottery. Lastly, I would love to let some free to be add to the elk coverage in PA, but thats illegal, as crazy as that sounds. Thank you to those who have made the positive comments. No hurry to sell it. In the meantime, I love the place and will enjoy it until the right person falls in love with it too.
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So there's a bear in that fence? Or has he found a way through/over/under it?
-Jake They can climb right up one side and down the other. Basically like a step ladder for them. I’d think the 2-legged varmints would be more of a problem!
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Looks like a beautiful estate! Congrats to your family for developing and maintaining it!
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Oh…by the way…any trades? 😂
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I am not a high fence fan, but I am sure I would deeply appreciate owning this property. But that is not in my future. Sounds like a great place and a neat place to sneak up on some elk. Keeping the head count in check really needs to be maintained. Congrats.
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As you see no buddy has interest in a high dollar fenced property to 'hunt Elk'
Maybe some rich liberaL from Philly or NYC will bite to entertain their clients
Not happening here.......
Again too much public land in the western USA to have a real Elk hunt
Move on.......... Well this post didn't elicit the response poster hoped. Maybe you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed but if a guy had 600 acres in PA that's a pretty good way to manage the ground. I have never killed a bull on private, much less high fenced, but if OP is happy I don't see a thing wrong. Seems a lot better than subdividing for rich NYC liberals to have a vacation home. As hunters we might be better sticking together than eating our own.
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As you see no buddy has interest in a high dollar fenced property to 'hunt Elk'
Maybe some rich liberaL from Philly or NYC will bite to entertain their clients
Not happening here.......
Again too much public land in the western USA to have a real Elk hunt
Move on.......... Well this post didn't elicit the response poter hoped. Maybe you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed but if a guy had 600 acres in PA that's a pretty good way to manage the ground. I have never killed a bull on private, much less high fenced, but if OP is happy I don't see a thing wrong. Seems a lot better than subdividing for rich NYC liberals to have a vacation home. As hunters we might be better sticking together than eating our own. Well said John. Same as you in regards to hunting but 600 acres in the east is a pretty fair piece of ground to keep natural.
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Maybe you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed but if a guy had 600 acres in PA that's a pretty good way to manage the ground.
I have never killed a bull on private, much less high fenced, but if OP is happy I don't see a thing wrong.
Seems a lot better than subdividing for rich NYC liberals to have a vacation home.
As hunters we might be better sticking together than eating our own. All good points 👍🏻
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How many elk are on the property? Bulls? Cows? Same question for deer?
Mineral rights included?
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As you see no buddy has interest in a high dollar fenced property to 'hunt Elk'
Maybe some rich liberaL from Philly or NYC will bite to entertain their clients
Not happening here.......
Again too much public land in the western USA to have a real Elk hunt
Move on.......... Well this post didn't elicit the response poter hoped. Maybe you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed but if a guy had 600 acres in PA that's a pretty good way to manage the ground. I have never killed a bull on private, much less high fenced, but if OP is happy I don't see a thing wrong. Seems a lot better than subdividing for rich NYC liberals to have a vacation home. As hunters we might be better sticking together than eating our own. Well said John. Same as you in regards to hunting but 600 acres in the east is a pretty fair piece of ground to keep natural. 600 acres doesn't sound like much to someone from out west, but in the eastern hardwoods it's a pretty good spread.
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600 acres is a postage stamp for a few elk. They can walk across that in 10 minutes.
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Well there is no doubt that 600 acres is a large parcel for an individual to own. But in the overall sceme of things it is not in that area of Pa. Not only that, but how many Elk and Deer will a parcel of that size support? In the mid 70s, when the Pa Game Commission placed the man they credited with saving the Pa bear population, in the job of now saving the deer herd, his plan was to drastically reduce the herd size. Especially in the area where they were trying to increase the size of the Elk herd. There was much outcry over that, and they had a big meeting at a now defunct sportsmans club called Mountain Country sportsman near the Cameron/Potter county line on route 872. It seemed as though the entire staff of the game commission was present and defending the proposal. When pressed, they claimed that due to the present size of the trees and lack of browse, the area could only support 2 deer per square mile. At that time, the Elk herd wasent even part of the argument, just the deer herd. But, is it logical that a say 300# elk would consume twice the amount a 125 pound deer would? So now were going to put a high fence around 600 acres and expect a huntable size herd to survive there? Does anybody here have any idea as to how many large food plots the game commission has created in the Elk region over the past dozen years or so? That in addition to many miles of natural gas pipelines and large power lines thruout that area? Not to mention all the yards they occupy, and where many end up being shot, during the (ahem) annual hunt. And their claim at least is that the entire Elk herd is about 1000 animals in the whole region, which is huge. So id say that somebody is paying to feed the animals in order for them to survive on 600 acres. Especially in years with a poor mast crop like acorns.
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I'd love to own that piece of property with all the amenities if I was lucky in the Lottery. I lived in Wyoming for 25 years and am now back in the midwest. I understand that by western standards 600 acres is just a big lot. However, in the east 600 acres is an estate. High fence hunting is not my thing and I'd remove the fence ( after I removed all the elk of course and as many of the wt's as possible) and develop a free range QDM property. I have only a 160 acres and even that amount can have high productivity back here if managed correctly. I'm even more fortunate as my neighbors are on the same page with QDM. A huge asset.
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600 acres is a postage stamp for a few elk. They can walk across that in 10 minutes. Yep. If I was interested in it the elk wouldn't be the reason.
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Elk are Grazers just like a cow how many cows will the 600 acres support? there's your answer, Deer are Browsers not Grazers and do not compete with Elk for Food. Rio7
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