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I have several pre 64s and classics considering consolidating and purchasing a pre 64 super grade to be primary good weather hunting rifle. Questions
Which era? I tend to prefer early 50’s with high comb. Tell me why I am wrong.
Which caliber? Thinking 300h&h, 30-06 or 270
Don’t mind a rifle with some wear but would prefer original something I will take care of but will be hunted not a safe queen once I get it.
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I've hunted my pre'64 Super Grade ever since I've owned it, originally a .30-06 with a so-so bore I had it rebored to .35 Whelen.
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If you don't reload you might as well write off the 300 H&H, the ammo for it has become way to expensive and almost impossible to find. Between the 30-06 and 270 it's just your preference, I am more a 30-06 guy.
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Funny that is the one that got me thinking about this!! Haha
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Funny that is the one that got me thinking about this!! Haha That was a good ‘un.
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Hard to beat the all around capability and class of a 300 H&H. I've found ammo to not be as rare or expensive as one might first expect. With careful watching, it can be found for $40 per box or less. Cheap by comparison to the outlay for the rifle and hunt.
My personal favorite rifle is my prewar supergrade. The blueing is nearly completely worn off the barrel and it has multiple lifetimes of stories to tell. 270 so nothing fancy, but it shoots great and gets more attention than just about any other rifle when folks see it.
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I have several pre 64s and classics considering consolidating and purchasing a pre 64 super grade to be primary good weather hunting rifle. Questions
Which era? I tend to prefer early 50’s with high comb. Tell me why I am wrong.
Which caliber? Thinking 300h&h, 30-06 or 270
Don’t mind a rifle with some wear but would prefer original something I will take care of but will be hunted not a safe queen once I get it. No good answer there, except you should probably know which you prefer more than anyone else here. I'd probably go 30-06, if I were buying one. Just to keep it simple and I have tons of components. I just sold my 300H&H die set to a nice guy here, and I don't plan on buying another one. Do you prefer one cartridge over the other? Do you have more components for one over the other? Good history with any of the cartridges? I grew up using the 30-06, so the choice for me would be easy.. I'd go with a 50's model as well because I like using a scope.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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+1 on .30-06 for the win, a very capable cartridge that proven itself in the gamefields for many years and has been the choice of experienced outdoorsmen.
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I’m always looking for the right P64 SG myself. I’d take any of the cartridges you mentioned. Hell, if I had the extra at the time I’d love a 30-06 or 270 FWT SG.
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I’m always looking for the right P64 SG myself. I’d take any of the cartridges you mentioned. Hell, if I had the extra at the time I’d love a 30-06 or 270 FWT SG. We'd probably all love the 30-06 or 270 fwt SG. Those seem to be pretty hard to find though. Those are the ones I'm holding out for. Just the right one will eventually come along.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Funny that is the one that got me thinking about this!! Haha That’s a beauty
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Funny because I too have been looking for super grade 30-06. I actually did see that one when it posted and thought it was a little steep, especially given that the seller had 0 feedback selling. What do you all think is a fair price on a super grade 30-06? I was thinking mid 2's was fair but maybe I'm off base. Obviously condition is everything....
The super grade 30-06 seem very hard to come by. Looked at my roger rule's book and they don't actually have the number produced. I assume they must be somewhat rare given how few I see listed. A lot of the standards and fwts out there though.
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Watched a SG 3006 on gunbroker go for $1375+ tax and shipping last week. It was just shooter grade but that kinda gives you the idea. A nice SG would be 1800+ I'd think.
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Watched a SG 3006 on gunbroker go for $1375+ tax and shipping last week. It was just shooter grade but that kinda gives you the idea. A nice SG would be 1800+ I'd think. This was a pre 64? That’s a steal and I sure missed that! Edit – never mind, I looked back through my watchlist and I did see it. It was pretty rough. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/976158194
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Yessir that's the one. It was indeed very rough, and I wasn't convinced the stock was original. Checkering didn't look right to me so I passed.
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Funny because I too have been looking for super grade 30-06. I actually did see that one when it posted and thought it was a little steep, especially given that the seller had 0 feedback selling. What do you all think is a fair price on a super grade 30-06? I was thinking mid 2's was fair but maybe I'm off base. Obviously condition is everything....
The super grade 30-06 seem very hard to come by. Looked at my roger rule's book and they don't actually have the number produced. I assume they must be somewhat rare given how few I see listed. A lot of the standards and fwts out there though. Rule says 15,881 supergrades total with ‘06 being the most common; but no exact production number.
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Watched a SG 3006 on gunbroker go for $1375+ tax and shipping last week. It was just shooter grade but that kinda gives you the idea. A nice SG would be 1800+ I'd think. This was a pre 64? That’s a steal and I sure missed that! Edit – never mind, I looked back through my watchlist and I did see it. It was pretty rough. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/976158194That one has seen a lot of use, plus the stock has been refinished. Not all original. Whoever said a "nice SG would be 1800", has a few screws loose. The one posted from gunsinternational is a "nice" one and it went for $3,400.00. It was also not there for very long, so that makes a pretty bold statement. Yessir that's the one. It was indeed very rough, and I wasn't convinced the stock was original. Checkering didn't look right to me so I passed. The reason the checkering does not look "right" is because it's been sanded down when they refinished the stock and then applied the finish right over the checkering. Very rookie job IMHO.. I know where 1 supergrade pre 64 30-06 is and it is $1,000.00. The stock has been cut and recoil pad added and there was also a diamond insert in the stock. That one was $1,000.00 and definitely a "shooter". Quite a bit nicer than that heap posted from GB though..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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